BMW
X1 / X2
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW X1 (F48) and X2 (F39) Forums General BMW X1 Forum (F48) Optional 3" sliding rear seat question

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-02-2016, 09:10 AM   #1
gold5
New Member
4
Rep
8
Posts

Drives: Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MA

iTrader: (0)

Optional 3" sliding rear seat question

If you don't purchase this option, what position is the rear seat in? The same as the optional sliding rear seat slid all the way forward? Or back? Or in the middle? If this option, for example, gets me 3" more legroom for backseat passengers, I'll do it! Thanks.
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2016, 09:20 AM   #2
KPD
Lieutenant
KPD's Avatar
United Kingdom
170
Rep
549
Posts

Drives: F48 xDrive 20i xLine
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Surrey

iTrader: (0)

I believe the standard seats get max legroom, min luggage room. But I'm not 100% sure.

Sliding seats are now standard here in the UK, by the way. Are you sure they're still optional in the US? Check the configurator or ask your dealer. Brochures and pricelist might be outdated.
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2016, 01:05 PM   #3
The Beast
Lieutenant Colonel
The Beast's Avatar
United Kingdom
268
Rep
1,597
Posts

Drives: VW Transporter Sportline
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wolverhampton

iTrader: (0)

All the way back, sliding seats only allow you to increase luggage room
Appreciate 0
      07-03-2016, 07:11 AM   #4
pedro mtech
Private
pedro mtech's Avatar
28
Rep
57
Posts

Drives: BMW X1 F48
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Spain

iTrader: (0)

I didn't get this option and the seat is in the medium position. You can see through the space between the back of the rear seat and the table
Appreciate 0
      07-03-2016, 07:49 AM   #5
ando
Colonel
ando's Avatar
United_States
2001
Rep
2,148
Posts

Drives: i5 eDr40, G80 and F80
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2024 BMW i5 eDr40  [10.00]
2022 BMW M3  [7.50]
2015 BMW M3  [0.00]
I believe you also get recline adjustment for the backrests and power folding backrests with buttons in the cargo area.
Appreciate 0
      07-03-2016, 11:26 AM   #6
The Beast
Lieutenant Colonel
The Beast's Avatar
United Kingdom
268
Rep
1,597
Posts

Drives: VW Transporter Sportline
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wolverhampton

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ando View Post
I believe you also get recline adjustment for the backrests and power folding backrests with buttons in the cargo area.
Yep you do indeed, the power folding is quite neat
__________________
Current: VW Transporter Sportline, F48 X1 20i M Sport. Previous: F10 530d M Sport, W176 A200 CDI AMG Evolution, E70 X5 3.0 SD M Sport, F20 120d M Sport, E81 120d M Sport, E46 325i M Sport, E46 318ci & Many Others...
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2016, 08:16 AM   #7
gold5
New Member
4
Rep
8
Posts

Drives: Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MA

iTrader: (0)

So this article seems to imply the opposite: "Rear-seat passengers now have it really good. Rear-seat legroom jumps up to 2.6 inches with the available $300 “Slide and Recline” option. It’s a boost in spaciousness you can really feel. The back seat is no longer tight; in fact, it’s inviting."
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/on...-x1-xdrive28i/
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2016, 09:02 AM   #8
The Beast
Lieutenant Colonel
The Beast's Avatar
United Kingdom
268
Rep
1,597
Posts

Drives: VW Transporter Sportline
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wolverhampton

iTrader: (0)

Lots of magazines got this wrong due to the huge increase in space verses the old X1 (15cm I believe), they simply attributed this to the sliding rear seat whereas it's mainly down to the transversely mounted engine. I drove two test cars without the sliding rear seats and they have the same legroom as ours with the sliding seats back as far as they go
__________________
Current: VW Transporter Sportline, F48 X1 20i M Sport. Previous: F10 530d M Sport, W176 A200 CDI AMG Evolution, E70 X5 3.0 SD M Sport, F20 120d M Sport, E81 120d M Sport, E46 325i M Sport, E46 318ci & Many Others...
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2016, 09:03 AM   #9
gold5
New Member
4
Rep
8
Posts

Drives: Wrangler
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MA

iTrader: (0)

Thank you!
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2016, 02:06 PM   #10
stefan
Brigadier General
stefan's Avatar
No_Country
2350
Rep
4,253
Posts

Drives: M2 Comp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North

iTrader: (2)

They gave us the wrong trunk tray by mistake when we got our X1. It's the trunk tray for the rear-sliding seat model. It falls short of covering the rear cargo area by about 4".

So in other words, the rear sliding seat option will take away 4" of rear cargo space.
__________________
///M Power
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2016, 03:01 PM   #11
CliveL
First Lieutenant
United Kingdom
163
Rep
334
Posts

Drives: 2016 X1 F48 xDrive20i xLine
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Bournemouth, UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan View Post
They gave us the wrong trunk tray by mistake when we got our X1. It's the trunk tray for the rear-sliding seat model. It falls short of covering the rear cargo area by about 4".

So in other words, the rear sliding seat option will take away 4" of rear cargo space.
That's a good point; there are different part numbers for the boot liner depending on whether you have the sliding seat option (4FD) or not. I've bought a genuine liner for my X1, which has sliding seats as standard here in the UK. I'm assuming that it's the shorter of the two types as it has to cater for the "worst case scenario" of having the rear seats slid all the way back. But this still begs the question about what position the fixed seats are in?
Attached Images
 

Last edited by CliveL; 07-04-2016 at 03:02 PM.. Reason: Added screenshot of part numbers
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2016, 04:20 PM   #12
CliveL
First Lieutenant
United Kingdom
163
Rep
334
Posts

Drives: 2016 X1 F48 xDrive20i xLine
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Bournemouth, UK

iTrader: (0)

If it helps, the part number I purchased was 51472407173, for xLine vehicles with the sliding seats. It measures about 87cm, or 34 inches, from front to back from rim to rim. I can't check how close this is to the rear bench as I'm still waiting for the delivery of my new X1

Last edited by CliveL; 07-05-2016 at 07:51 AM..
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2016, 07:40 AM   #13
stefan
Brigadier General
stefan's Avatar
No_Country
2350
Rep
4,253
Posts

Drives: M2 Comp
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: North

iTrader: (2)

I should have clarified, we immediately used RealOEM to get the right P/N for the tray and swapped it out.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=03_1503

Designation of adjustable rear seats is S4FDA, which is not available on M sport X1s. The sliding seat tray is the "+S4FDA" model. It's about 100g lighter from being too short. The 1.9kg model is the -SA4FD trunk kit and fits non-adjustable rear seats (e.g., from M sport equipped X1s).

The correct part number for fixed seats and M sport should be 51472407170. This is the tray and not the trunk mat (who would just want a mat?!)

What this means is that, by default, the fixed seats sit slightly forward of the sliding seats. There is a slight recline on them. So I'd say 2.5" further forward in the fixed seat case, +/- 1"
__________________
///M Power
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2016, 03:49 PM   #14
The Beast
Lieutenant Colonel
The Beast's Avatar
United Kingdom
268
Rep
1,597
Posts

Drives: VW Transporter Sportline
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wolverhampton

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by stefan View Post
I should have clarified, we immediately used RealOEM to get the right P/N for the tray and swapped it out.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=03_1503

Designation of adjustable rear seats is S4FDA, which is not available on M sport X1s. The sliding seat tray is the "+S4FDA" model. It's about 100g lighter from being too short. The 1.9kg model is the -SA4FD trunk kit and fits non-adjustable rear seats (e.g., from M sport equipped X1s).

The correct part number for fixed seats and M sport should be 51472407170. This is the tray and not the trunk mat (who would just want a mat?!)

What this means is that, by default, the fixed seats sit slightly forward of the sliding seats. There is a slight recline on them. So I'd say 2.5" further forward in the fixed seat case, +/- 1"
I have M Sport and adjustable seats, but I'm in the UK. As previously stated I don't see any difference in leg room from test cars without sliding seats and my dealer told me that the rear legroom was the same as a standard car with the seats in their furthest back position. However the adjustable seat does recline more than the standard seats, so I'm wondering whether the shorter boot liner is to allow for the seat to recline rather than provide increased leg room...
__________________
Current: VW Transporter Sportline, F48 X1 20i M Sport. Previous: F10 530d M Sport, W176 A200 CDI AMG Evolution, E70 X5 3.0 SD M Sport, F20 120d M Sport, E81 120d M Sport, E46 325i M Sport, E46 318ci & Many Others...
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2016, 05:46 PM   #15
ttimbo
Major
ttimbo's Avatar
282
Rep
1,491
Posts

Drives: F48 X1 25i AW; F20 M135i AW
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

This has been covered previously (but I can't find it ) My recollection is there is a difference between legroom on the adjustable vs non-adjustable.
__________________
BMW F22 M240i; F48 X1 25i, BMW F20 M135i
Peugeot T9 308 GTi 270
Renaultsport Megane 3 Trophy-R, Renault Clio Sport 182.
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2016, 01:51 PM   #16
lurch70
New Member
2
Rep
7
Posts

Drives: x3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: New York, NY

iTrader: (0)

In the market for an X1 and this would be a great feature to have for the rear seats especially if they slide back from the standard position of a fixed rear seat. Being 6'7" any additional space for someone behind me would be great.

This thread doesn't seem to clarify its functionality. Anyone have a definitive answer?
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2016, 02:13 PM   #17
simon.
Colonel
United Kingdom
922
Rep
2,559
Posts

Drives: F48 25D mSport
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Milton Keynes

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lurch70
In the market for an X1 and this would be a great feature to have for the rear seats especially if they slide back from the standard position of a fixed rear seat. Being 6'7" any additional space for someone behind me would be great.

This thread doesn't seem to clarify its functionality. Anyone have a definitive answer?
Pretty sure that they only slide forward the 3" from the standard fixed position & not back. Gives you more load space but no more leg room for rear seat passengers.
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2016, 02:50 PM   #18
sdb123
Second Lieutenant
45
Rep
274
Posts

Drives: F48 X1 M-Sport
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Northants

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by simon. View Post
Pretty sure that they only slide forward the 3" from the standard fixed position & not back. Gives you more load space but no more leg room for rear seat passengers.
Correct.

Saying that, any tall drivers don't rule the X1 out - the interior space is very good. I'm 6'4" and the rear passenger behind my seat has loads of room.
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2016, 03:26 PM   #19
lurch70
New Member
2
Rep
7
Posts

Drives: x3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: New York, NY

iTrader: (0)

Thank you! I guess it's still worth it for the reclining feature.
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2016, 04:23 PM   #20
Vogit
Second Lieutenant
United Kingdom
93
Rep
251
Posts

Drives: X1 xDrive 20D xLine
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Tyne & Wear

iTrader: (0)

There are various threads on this: consensus, including BMW's position is that you do get an inch and a bit extra rear legroom with th sliding rear seats. The boot liner to go behind them is shorter, so would seem to confirm this. What actually makes a difference to rear seat legroom is how high you set the front seats. If you have them low people in the back can't push their feet underneath them. I run with them at maximum height, so there is loads of legroom behind me. (I 'm 6'1" + and can sit behind myself, if you know what I mean).
Appreciate 0
      07-31-2016, 11:48 PM   #21
Pristineship
Private First Class
48
Rep
146
Posts

Drives: F48 X1 X line sDrive 20i
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Slovakia

iTrader: (0)

I would have really hard time to find the videos, as X1 related youtube videos are my only entertainment for the past 3 weeks and will continue to do so until my car is delivered and I saw basically all of the x1 videos in all of the languages available
but at least in two reviews it was stated that without the adjustable rear seats they are about 30% more forward than the adjustable ones all the way back,
and that was the reason I went for them, because I couldn't care less about remote folding button, but I do need the maximum rear legroom.
Appreciate 0
      08-02-2016, 04:46 PM   #22
mondynet
Enlisted Member
United_States
3
Rep
35
Posts

Drives: X1, X3, X7
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: San Francisco, CA

iTrader: (0)

I have personally compared this at a dealership before deciding to get the adjustable rear seats. You do get more reclined seat back position and at least an inch more of leg room.

If you like to check out the comparison between adjustable and non-adjustable trunk trims, check this link out.

http://parts.bmwmonterey.com/a/BMW_2...M/51_2928.html

Hope im not violating for posting an external link. Hope this helps.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:29 AM.




xbimmers
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST