[Turkish Pickle]

long day, successful one too... ran into a friend from freshmen earlier today, havent seen her last year because she studied abroad.

anyway she invites me to study at her place even though we have no classes in common - see you boys soon

i love college

[CTinline-six]

Originally Posted by Bayerische Motoren Werke

long day, successful one too... ran into a friend from freshmen earlier today, havent seen her last year because she studied abroad.

anyway she invites me to study at her place even though we have no classes in common - see you boys soon

i love college

Enjoy it while you can lol. College sucked for me I worked full-time and commuted.

Get it out of your system now so you are ready for the workplace where looking at someone wrong can result in a harassment charge.

[Turkish Pickle]

Originally Posted by CTinline-six

Enjoy it while you can lol. College sucked for me I worked full-time and commuted.

Get it out of your system now so you are ready for the workplace where looking at someone wrong can result in a harassment charge.

i see i haven't been as slick with my ninja edit as i thought.

but yeah definitely, not trying to catch a case... i have this and next year to enjoy it, then its workplace castration

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

I really want to hit a bar and just sit at the next booth and listen to your conversations with these chicks. You sound hilariously brutal.

Truth hurts! Someone has to start fixing this snowflake society we now live in.

Also, I don't meet those types in person. I'm not desperate.

[1MOREMOD]

Dating since being married is more stressful

[DETRoadster]

Originally Posted by CTinline-six

Get it out of your system now so you are ready for the workplace where looking at someone wrong can result in a harassment charge.

I cannot second this statement enough. It's 1,000,000% accurate.

The little company I work for has gone so far to appease these sorts of people that we are now empowering and enabling them. it's ridiculous. One particularly troublesome young woman, who we have dubbed the "virtue signaler" is a freakin' lawsuit ready to happen. She's very attractive and knows it but she's also in a relationship with a woman, primarily socializes with gay men, and has serious issues with heterosexual men who she has called "repugnant" for their objectification of women on more than one occasion that I have personally overheard. Needless to say I steer clear of her. I don't look at her, I don't talk to her, unless she approaches me needing something. otherwise I keep my distance. Well apparently she complained to HR that she thought I was upset with her or didn't like her because I'm not friendly and open with her. WTF!? There's no winning with this one and there's a bazillion more of them just like her out there in offices across the country, just waiting to F you up. Anyway, I'm in a management position with my company and thus the stakes are high. HR knows all about this woman and just brushed off her concerns, though they thankfully alerted me. I told HR my concerns and that I refuse to be alone in my office or a conference room with her. Any time she sets up a meeting with me I forward the invite to her manager, who is a woman, and require her to join us. Gotta cover my backside.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

I cannot second this statement enough. It's 1,000,000% accurate.

The little company I work for has gone so far to appease these sorts of people that we are now empowering and enabling them. it's ridiculous. One particularly troublesome young woman, who we have dubbed the "virtue signaler" is a freakin' lawsuit ready to happen. She's very attractive and knows it but she's also in a relationship with a woman, primarily socializes with gay men, and has serious issues with heterosexual men who she has called "repugnant" for their objectification of women on more than one occasion that I have personally overheard. Needless to say I steer clear of her. I don't look at her, I don't talk to her, unless she approaches me needing something. otherwise I keep my distance. Well apparently she complained to HR that she thought I was upset with her or didn't like her because I'm not friendly and open with her. WTF!? There's no winning with this one and there's a bazillion more of them just like her out there in offices across the country, just waiting to F you up. Anyway, I'm in a management position with my company and thus the stakes are high. HR knows all about this woman and just brushed off her concerns, though they thankfully alerted me. I told HR my concerns and that I refuse to be alone in my office or a conference room with her. Any time she sets up a meeting with me I forward the invite to her manager, who is a woman, and require her to join us. Gotta cover my backside.

Can we put all these clowns on an island & blow it up?

[ImolaMoop]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Can you share more about your story?

Recently got out of a relationship with a BPD person, I believe a narcissist, and I left without understanding anything. Took me over a month to get to a reasonably sane level.

Most people can’t comprehend the level of crazy that borderline personality brings. In order to date one you have to be very hard on them and never full emotionally commit.

I’m still dating mine.

She has crazy episodes but never directs them towards me. She knows how that would end. Lots of self harm scars. Suicide threats and attempts. Downloaded an app to translate her words to her cat. Reckless bevahior with tattoos and shopping. Always skipping school. Zero relationship with her father. Unbelievable narcissistic episodes.

It’s a real treat to watch sometimes.

Let’s me do absolutely ridiculous things to her in bed and she’s very hot which is why I’m in. Very loyal as well, which is unusual for BPD.

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

Dude, you're supposed to learn after the first one. The starter wife. Second wife should be a breeze.

I learn something from all of them. Each is a different experience all it's own. I learned everything I wanted that I wasn't getting from the first one, the second one taught me to read in between the lines of getting everything I wanted but not accepting the things I didn't want. I got more than I bargained for with the second one. I loved the wife, just not the other 42 personalities that came with her.

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

I cannot second this statement enough. It's 1,000,000% accurate.

The little company I work for has gone so far to appease these sorts of people that we are now empowering and enabling them. it's ridiculous. One particularly troublesome young woman, who we have dubbed the "virtue signaler" is a freakin' lawsuit ready to happen. She's very attractive and knows it but she's also in a relationship with a woman, primarily socializes with gay men, and has serious issues with heterosexual men who she has called "repugnant" for their objectification of women on more than one occasion that I have personally overheard. Needless to say I steer clear of her. I don't look at her, I don't talk to her, unless she approaches me needing something. otherwise I keep my distance. Well apparently she complained to HR that she thought I was upset with her or didn't like her because I'm not friendly and open with her. WTF!? There's no winning with this one and there's a bazillion more of them just like her out there in offices across the country, just waiting to F you up. Anyway, I'm in a management position with my company and thus the stakes are high. HR knows all about this woman and just brushed off her concerns, though they thankfully alerted me. I told HR my concerns and that I refuse to be alone in my office or a conference room with her. Any time she sets up a meeting with me I forward the invite to her manager, who is a woman, and require her to join us. Gotta cover my backside.

Wow....the fact that even avoiding confrontation with her causes a big enough issue in her mind to take it to HR says everything. That's crazy!!!

I have a tendency to keep my head down at work and not associate with anyone in particular as not to be viewed by other employees as being associated with a clique. This will cause serious issues in what I do. Where I work is so clique-y it's a lot like a prison yard. If I joke around with someone and then work on a project in a department where employees don't like the person I was seen joking with, the other employees will do everything in their power to wreck what I'm working on. This goes with management here as well, they're actually worse than the production employees. They will intentionally not approve projects that need completed for production/financial/compliance/environmental reasons just because they are upset with you about completely unrelated issues. Craziness. "Oh you took the stand of xyz on this topic? Well I can't approve project abc because of this."

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by ImolaMoop

Most people can’t comprehend the level of crazy that borderline personality brings. In order to date one you have to be very hard on them and never full emotionally commit.

I’m still dating mine.

She has crazy episodes but never directs them towards me. She knows how that would end. Lots of self harm scars. Suicide threats and attempts. Downloaded an app to translate her words to her cat. Reckless bevahior with tattoos and shopping. Always skipping school. Zero relationship with her father. Unbelievable narcissistic episodes.

It’s a real treat to watch sometimes.

Let’s me do absolutely ridiculous things to her in bed and she’s very hot which is why I’m in. Very loyal as well, which is unusual for BPD.

I can relate. The second wife was eat up with BPD. Basically anything that you couldn't handle is exactly what she would do. She would make plans to do things she knew I would be upset about, then intentionally start a fight with me over something minute; escalate it so she could pretend to be so mad that she would leave then go do what she wanted and use it as an excuse that she did this because she was mad about the argument. Just like yours, she was ridiculously hot, a great cook and the sex was beyond intense but you have a odd one with the loyal bit; most are not this way. In fact, it's almost unbelievable. Good luck....you ultimately know where this will goo though.

btw.....downloaded and app to communicate with her cat????? I bet the sex is amazing!

[ImolaMoop]

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

I can relate. The second wife was eat up with BPD. Basically anything that you couldn't handle is exactly what she would do. She would make plans to do things she knew I would be upset about, then intentionally start a fight with me over something minute; escalate it so she could pretend to be so mad that she would leave then go do what she wanted and use it as an excuse that she did this because she was mad about the argument. Just like yours, she was ridiculously hot, a great cook and the sex was beyond intense but you have a odd one with the loyal bit; most are not this way. In fact, it's almost unbelievable. Good luck....you ultimately know where this will goo though.

btw.....downloaded and app to communicate with her cat????? I bet the sex is amazing!

Wow can’t imagine being married to one. Sounds stressful when there’s money involved. And holy shet if there’s kids.

For mine, Granted she is 18. There’s an immaturity factor too.

Another few classic signs:

Loves to dye her hair or cut her hair differently
Very up and down relationship with friends and mom
Told me she loves me the third day I knew her
Watches porn a lot
Hates her own race (chinese) in terms of looks

[Never_Enough]

I don't care how hot or good the sex is, I would not be in a relationship with that level of crazy. Fuck buddy or something, sure.

[ImolaMoop]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

I don't care how hot or good the sex is, I would not be in a relationship with that level of crazy. Fuck buddy or something, sure.

Once you do it you won’t be able to go back to normal

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by ImolaMoop

Wow can’t imagine being married to one. Sounds stressful when there’s money involved. And holy shet if there’s kids.

For mine, Granted she is 18. There’s an immaturity factor too.

Another few classic signs:

Loves to dye her hair or cut her hair differently
Very up and down relationship with friends and mom
Told me she loves me the third day I knew her
Watches porn a lot
Hates her own race (chinese) in terms of looks

Yep, check, check....three days is way too soon mine was about 3 weeks, check and that's fucking crazy!

Mine would invent problems for attention. Some were just way out there! Would call me at all hours of the night when we were dating and would either leave me voicemails singing me love songs (she couldn't sing for shit) or would moan (acting like she was having sex) to get under my skin. Serious substance abuse problems. There was always some form of intoxicant, it went from alcohol to pot to hard drugs back to alcohol back to pot, repeat. Nothing was done in moderation. She would smoke an entire joint and then light another. Don't get me wrong, I used to smoke weed but smoking after you just got high isn't going to get you any higher.

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

I don't care how hot or good the sex is, I would not be in a relationship with that level of crazy. Fuck buddy or something, sure.

I said the same thing. It's hard not to get emotionally involved once they set their hooks in. Much like a siren, it's like a spell or being addicted to a drug, you can't get enough but hate yourself for not being able to walk away.

I know, I know everyone says they would never do that, but I'm a mentally strong guy myself and fell victim to it as well. It's much different when it's actually happening to you instead of a someone you know.

Fuck buddies turn into relationships with these types.

Originally Posted by ImolaMoop

Once you do it you won’t be able to go back to normal

Yep....very much this. Normal girls bore me now. Part of the reason I don't emotionally involved anymore.

[ImolaMoop]

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

Yep, check, check....three days is way too soon mine was about 3 weeks, check and that's fucking crazy!

Mine would invent problems for attention. Some were just way out there! Would call me at all hours of the night when we were dating and would either leave me voicemails singing me love songs (she couldn't sing for shit) or would moan (acting like she was having sex) to get under my skin. Serious substance abuse problems. There was always some form of intoxicant, it went from alcohol to pot to hard drugs back to alcohol back to pot, repeat. Nothing was done in moderation. She would smoke an entire joint and then light another. Don't get me wrong, I used to smoke weed but smoking after you just got high isn't going to get you any higher.



I said the same thing. It's hard not to get emotionally involved once they set their hooks in. Much like a siren, it's like a spell or being addicted to a drug, you can't get enough but hate yourself for not being able to walk away.

I know, I know everyone says they would never do that, but I'm a mentally strong guy myself and fell victim to it as well. It's much different when it's actually happening to you instead of a someone you know.

Fuck buddies turn into relationships with these types.



Yep....very much this. Normal girls bore me now. Part of the reason I don't emotionally involved anymore.

I should add that to her list of non BPD traits- she does not drink, smoke or use any drugs. That and loyal are her two unusual traits for a girl with professionally diagnosed BPD.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by ImolaMoop

Once you do it you won’t be able to go back to normal

There's no such thing as "normal"
I've dated crazies. No thanks.

[CTinline-six]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

I don't care how hot or good the sex is, I would not be in a relationship with that level of crazy. Fuck buddy or something, sure.

+1

I have enough stress and other shit to deal with and don't need the burden of someone else's mental insanity. There are plenty of very attractive women out there who are not mental basket cases.

Hint: You likely won't find them on dating sites or in bars, which are basically the same women but when they aren't on their computers/phones.

[Turkish Pickle]

my mom's sister (that makes her my aunt i think?) was diagnosed with BPD and schizophrenia so i know what can happen when they're having an episode, if you guys can put up with that that is some patience i do not have but aspire to have...

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by Bayerische Motoren Werke

my mom's sister (that makes her my aunt i think?) was diagnosed with BPD and schizophrenia so i know what can happen when they're having an episode, if you guys can put up with that that is some patience i do not have but aspire to have...

It's not really patience. It's also not really something that a person can explain, it's just something you experience. It's like an addiction once the person infests themselves into your life. Consider this, people who are drug addicts once said, "I'll never allow this to happen to me" and it's not as if they woke up one morning and thought to themselves "Today is the day I'm going to ruin my life be becoming addicted to something that will eventually ruin me." It just happens and then you find yourself in the middle of it often acting in a manner that it isn't consistent with who you are.

I've had several friends go through the same thing. It all too easy to say "I'll never do this", "This will never happen to me" or "I wouldn't put up with that." I said the same thing. You never know how you will act or react until you are in that situation yourself.

[BayE30]

Originally Posted by Bayerische Motoren Werke

my mom's sister (that makes her my aunt i think?) was diagnosed with BPD and schizophrenia so i know what can happen when they're having an episode, if you guys can put up with that that is some patience i do not have but aspire to have...

not an equal comparison, as (hopefully) yer not having sex with your moms sister...

[Alfisti]

I don't care how good the getting is, no fucking way i put up with that shit. I can't do crazy or drugged or whatever, just zero patience for these people.

[Turkish Pickle]

Originally Posted by SFCM3

not an equal comparison, as (hopefully) yer not having sex with your moms sister...

true and no i am not having any relations with her don't worry

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

It's not really patience. It's also not really something that a person can explain, it's just something you experience. It's like an addiction once the person infests themselves into your life. Consider this, people who are drug addicts once said, "I'll never allow this to happen to me" and it's not as if they woke up one morning and thought to themselves "Today is the day I'm going to ruin my life be becoming addicted to something that will eventually ruin me." It just happens and then you find yourself in the middle of it often acting in a manner that it isn't consistent with who you are.

I've had several friends go through the same thing. It all too easy to say "I'll never do this", "This will never happen to me" or "I wouldn't put up with that." I said the same thing. You never know how you will act or react until you are in that situation yourself.

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

As Judy mentioned...

It's not a choice you make. You fall for them. Hard.

When you see it you become kind of "crazy" yourself, doing things or thinking things you never did before.

One can't just say "I choose not to love her anymore so I'll just walk away". It's not a switch.

hope im not prying too much, but what made you guys realize it's time to "walk away"? how did you rationalize that and act on it?