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      07-16-2013, 04:05 AM   #155
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No i said i liked the M135i for other features, not looks. In fact the reason i haven't bought one is because of its front end. It looks ok from some angles and in some photos. I just want the LCI or 2er to come out.
Do you like the pictures of the 2 series front, then? I thought it was more bland and boring than the 1 series, but it seemed like the Americans were more positive about it. That is an important market for that car.

I am guessing that the 1 series LCI will look different from both the current 1 series and the 2 series front.
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      07-16-2013, 05:15 AM   #156
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Do you like the pictures of the 2 series front, then? I thought it was more bland and boring than the 1 series, but it seemed like the Americans were more positive about it. That is an important market for that car.

I am guessing that the 1 series LCI will look different from both the current 1 series and the 2 series front.
I liked it more than the 1 series but not as much as i like the E92. I like the F32/30 front end less than the E92 also.

My problem is that i dont want to have to stump up 45k for a 435i next time around. So a M235i will be better value. Then again you can usually get cars 12 months old for very good value if people spec them up right.
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      07-16-2013, 05:20 AM   #157
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I wonder how rare M235i will be. A bit like E92 335i's were when I was looking in 2009. Dealers named their price pretty much.
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      07-16-2013, 06:00 AM   #158
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I wonder how rare M235i will be. A bit like E92 335i's were when I was looking in 2009. Dealers named their price pretty much.
yes and 3 years later they couldnt give them away!

the MPG is alot better on the newer 35i engines these days which will make them cheaper to live with.
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      07-16-2013, 07:00 AM   #159
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yes and 3 years later they couldnt give them away!

the MPG is alot better on the newer 35i engines these days which will make them cheaper to live with.
I agree it's better. But I manage 30 MPG from the 335i and PX'd it with very little loss 18 months later. I loved that car.
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I agree it's better. But I manage 30 MPG from the 335i and PX'd it with very little loss 18 months later. I loved that car.
Yes the E92 with any 6 pot engine is something special.

I have been looking at the Youtube reviews of the M135i and i have to say its growing on me! But if i know an LCI is coming with updated lights then ill probably save up.

It seems there is 12% discount currently on these cars. Does anyone know if this is 12% off the OTR price?
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Yes the E92 with any 6 pot engine is something special.

I have been looking at the Youtube reviews of the M135i and i have to say its growing on me! But if i know an LCI is coming with updated lights then ill probably save up.

It seems there is 12% discount currently on these cars. Does anyone know if this is 12% off the OTR price?
I managed 15% off list but not the OTR price.
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I managed 15% off list but not the OTR price.
can you explain how this works? what bit doesnt the discount apply too?
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can you explain how this works? what bit doesnt the discount apply too?
Road tax
First registration fee
delivery fee
Fuel.

So pre invoice total and just off of car and extras.
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Road tax
First registration fee
delivery fee
Fuel.

So pre invoice total and just off of car and extras.
Thats not to bad.

As if they charge for fuel! id tell them to kiss my ass and fill it up or im walking
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Thats not to bad.

As if they charge for fuel! id tell them to kiss my ass and fill it up or im walking
I was lucky to have a tankful of BP Ultimate when I collected it. which they could have charged me for and I'd have happily paid it, as I was getting 15% discount. You have to look at the bigger picture.
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I was lucky to have a tankful of BP Ultimate when I collected it. which they could have charged me for and I'd have happily paid it, as I was getting 15% discount. You have to look at the bigger picture.
My usual trick is to get the 15% and then when they try and charge me for the fuel i say i want at least half a tank or the deals off!

Im a good way away from buying another car anyway but maybe in another 12-18 months when the LCI comes out i might just bite the bullet and order a brand new one.
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Mbut maybe in another 12-18 months when the LCI comes out i might just bite the bullet and order a brand new one.
They will all be electric then.
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They will all be electric then.
Lol or worse!

All 4 cylinder!!!!
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I liked it more than the 1 series but not as much as i like the E92. I like the F32/30 front end less than the E92 also.

My problem is that i dont want to have to stump up 45k for a 435i next time around. So a M235i will be better value. Then again you can usually get cars 12 months old for very good value if people spec them up right.
Hornady, I'am with you, except that I would even buy a car which I deem to be ugly... probably. The 1 is probably still the best value proposition for drivers and the M135i is a real peach.

I'am just mad how BMW ever thought they had to design a mass car with such a controversial design. To me, it feels like they spit in my face for liking BMW and I feel they are testing my loyalty by offering this offending inferior styling.

It feels like a skewed pathological relation, based on SM. I don't believe it's needed nor wanted. They just have to draw a car like many other mass market commodity manufactures can do, that's all I'am asking for (and thousands more).

Now they are forced in a facelift since the new A3, A-Class and Golf are stealing most customers... just because they are not ugly. Really seriously bad job done BMW!
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