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      04-18-2015, 07:50 AM   #1
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Best UK model (besides the M135i)!?

As the title says!...

I own an F30 320d but starting to reconsider my choice, not sure a saloon is right for me.

I only travel 10k miles per year, with the odd long trip from Yorkshire to Scotland (can easily cover 800miles over that trip!)

I want performance but some economy! My 320d is only returning 38mpg at present I was expecting high 40's at least!

What options are a must have on the 1?

Thanks in advance
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Hi, i have a 125i auto but if you are after an oil burner my friend has a 125d that is very nice to drive and very good on fuel on long trips, i would recommend you try one.
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Their is not a great deal of difference between petrol and diesel these days and the car of choice for me is the 116i M Sport. I've driven a lot of the latest BMW cars and just enjoy the go cart feel driving the 116i. The options I have added is all the lights options as well M Sport. You'll have to demo the car.
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      04-18-2015, 05:17 PM   #4
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Their is not a great deal of difference between petrol and diesel these days and the car of choice for me is the 116i M Sport. I've driven a lot of the latest BMW cars and just enjoy the go cart feel driving the 116i. The options I have added is all the lights options as well M Sport. You'll have to demo the car.
Thanks for your input...the dealer has a 118i sport or a 120d MS to test. Think only the MS was an auto which I'd want!
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I understand the new face lift 118i was the 116i and the old 118i is now a 120i.

Our diesel is cheaper than England to run a BMW on in NZ, but we all like petrol cars as they run nice and don't sound like a tractors. Diesel cars are hard to sell second hand and the purity of petrol cars over diesel is just better.
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The 1 series is very cramped- especially the footwell, the pedals are too close! I would stick to the F30 or at the very least go for an auto
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The 1 series is very cramped- especially the footwell, the pedals are too close! I would stick to the F30 or at the very least go for an auto
I will be going for auto if I decide to change.

Still not sure what's best to do!
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You need a Coupe then, F30 is boring and MPG watching takes the pleasure from driving. Recently voted No. 1 car for driving pleasure by Consumer Report.



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You need a Coupe then, F30 is boring and MPG watching takes the pleasure from driving. Recently voted No. 1 car for driving pleasure by Consumer Report.
I think I've dug myself a very big hole with purchasing the F30 and now falling out with it

Dealer can put me in a 118d m sport but with less spec than my 320 for the monthlies
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Get a hatch - so amazingly practical. With a tune you can get ~220hp even with the 114i.
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I will be going for auto if I decide to change.

Still not sure what's best to do!
Honestly, the F20 is one of the worst BMWs.. Stay away! BMW is not for the hatchback market- its just a cash cow for them. If you want a hatch go for an Audi A3 or VW Golf, much better cars!

If you want to stay with BMW check out the F10
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Honestly, the F20 is one of the worst BMWs.. Stay away! BMW is not for the hatchback market- its just a cash cow for them. If you want a hatch go for an Audi A3 or VW Golf, much better cars!

If you want to stay with BMW check out the F10
You live in fantasy land VW has been dropping the price of the latest Golf by at least 20% because they can no sell the bland front wheel drive and Audi is so bland it even under sells Golf where as BMW F20 is selling well.

You must be close to retiring with your selection of cars.
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You live in fantasy land VW has been dropping the price of the latest Golf by at least 20% because they can no sell the bland front wheel drive and Audi is so bland it even under sells Golf where as BMW F20 is selling well.

You must be close to retiring with your selection of cars.
Say what you want but the golf is a far superior car than the F20. The F20 is better in only one respect and that is refinement- i.e. road noise. The 1 series only exists has BMW knows it can exploit its brand image (as being premium) to bring customers in who can't afford the better cars i.e. the F30 and above. It is a well known fact! Look anywhere and you will see how bad the F20 really is but you are too blind-sided by the fact you own one! Open your eyes and you will see how awful the 1-series really is.

It is a known fact BMW heavily discount their cars including the 1 series so I am not sure what you're saying about VWs discounts... You can easily get 20% off an F30, does that make it a bad car too?
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Honestly, the F20 is one of the worst BMWs.. Stay away! BMW is not for the hatchback market- its just a cash cow for them. If you want a hatch go for an Audi A3 or VW Golf, much better cars!

If you want to stay with BMW check out the F10
What is it you don't like about the F20? I would take one over the F10 any day of the week. The Golf seems like a decent car as well, but if I had to go with FWD, I would prefer a Mini.
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I will be going for auto if I decide to change.

Still not sure what's best to do!
Honestly, the F20 is one of the worst BMWs.. Stay away! BMW is not for the hatchback market- its just a cash cow for them. If you want a hatch go for an Audi A3 or VW Golf, much better cars!

If you want to stay with BMW check out the F10
Thanks for your input, but I didn't like the handling of the Audi and the auto box wasn't up to much either!
Golf...the Mrs doesn't like the looks!!
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What is it you don't like about the F20? I would take one over the F10 any day of the week. The Golf seems like a decent car as well, but if I had to go with FWD, I would prefer a Mini.
The F20 does drive better than the Golf and is more refined but i find the car too cramped and lacking in interior quality. The pedals in the F20 are too close together but this seems to be a UK/right-handside drive problem more than anything.
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The F20 does drive better than the Golf and is more refined but i find the car too cramped and lacking in interior quality. The pedals in the F20 are too close together but this seems to be a UK/right-handside drive problem more than anything.
Yes, there is plenty of room around the pedals in the LHD F20. It even comes with a dead pedal, which the RHD version doesn't. The interior quality is the same as in the F30, and a good step up from the previous generation 1 series.
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Yes, there is plenty of room around the pedals in the LHD F20. It even comes with a dead pedal, which the RHD version doesn't. The interior quality is the same as in the F30, and a good step up from the previous generation 1 series.
Mine has a dead pedal, three living pedals and more than sufficient room for my size 46 shoes.

I also don't really find the interior quality of the F30 any more convincing than the F20 - the 5er is certainly a step up from there.
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Dont think you will find anyone agreeing with you in here - would be kind of weird if you did actually. The ONLY quality issues I have with mine was sqeeky door seals (solved) + the plastic behind the handle you pull the door shut with overlaps the alu and has a sharp edge + my navi screen and instrument housing is sqeeking until it "settles" the first few km (I usually pull it a bit myself to make it settle faster).

Anyway - you enjoy your F10 and we LOVE our F20's. Everyone is happy

As ovekvam ...I would not exchange my F20 for a F10 - love that mini wagon practicality, sporty drive and compact size too much.
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As ovekvam ...I would not exchange my F20 for a F10 - love that mini wagon practicality, sporty drive and compact size too much.
But would you swap the F20 for an F30?!
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But would you swap the F20 for an F30?!
Nope
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But would you swap the F20 for an F30?!
Nope
why did I let myself get talked into a spec'd 320, when all I wanted was a spec'd 120!
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