Video: Chris Harris Reviews BMW M135i vs Audi RS3 on Road, Track and Dragstrip

InterJon · 10-17-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NICKTENN

And these aren't coming to the states why?????

Too ugly?

Doctor///M · 10-17-2012, 10:22 PM

sweet!!!

ORIGIN M. · 10-17-2012, 10:31 PM

I'd just love to see xDrive added to the mix!

NICKTENN · 10-17-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by InterJon

Too ugly?

I dig the looks (front end) more than the current 1 series in the states.

BMW-RaceR · 10-17-2012, 10:39 PM

Great review by Chris Harris as always!

BMW-RaceR · 10-17-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ovekvam

Maybe Harris doesn't know that there is now a fake differential brake that enables itself when you switch off the DSC? I suspect that is why he didn't have his expected traction problems.

I can not tell 100% for sure..
But when he is talking about LSDs from about 15 minutes into the reviews. He says he find it hard to criticize BMWs open diff AND THE ELECTRONICS.
So he probably knows. Chris is not the guy do drive on a track with DSC, DTC and that stuff.
He can can usually feel the difference between a Torsen LSD, and a Clutch type LSD. So I don't doubt he figured out that the car had some form of E-diff if he was not aware. Most likely he knew about it before the review..

bimmerjph · 10-17-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jatran661

38mpg from an n55 ? How come I get 20mpg for the us spec n55? Is it cause theres something to do with the quality of our gas?

Two reasons:
The biggest one is that the 1 US gallon equals roughly 1.2 UK gallons. And the other is that M135i has 8 gears where yours has 6 or 7 depending on your transmission. I suppose gas quality could be a factor too, but it would not be a significant as the other two.

scflaw · 10-17-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by InterJon

Too ugly?

agreed! Car looks weird, the audi however looks very nice.

SHFT · 10-17-2012, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scflaw

agreed! Car looks weird, the audi however looks very nice.

+1 its like BMW did it on purpose knowing that face only a owner could love

rideontwo · 10-17-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HasanK

This just came on today, hope you enjoy it

Sorry the earlier link didn't work and thanks Ovekam for backing me up there, Cheers.

Why oh why can't this hatch be available to us U.S. buyers.

Come on BMW USA bring us a hatch.

mPlasticDesign · 10-18-2012, 12:00 AM

I actually prefer the way the M135 looks over the boring Audi design. Chris did a great assessment of those two vehicles!

RiefferD · 10-18-2012, 12:37 AM

I hate that Bmw won't sell these in the U.S.

WeekendDriver · 10-18-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

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Originally Posted by Jatran661

38mpg from an n55 ? How come I get 20mpg for the us spec n55? Is it cause theres something to do with the quality of our gas?

Two reasons:
The biggest one is that the 1 US gallon equals roughly 1.2 UK gallons. And the other is that M135i has 8 gears where yours has 6 or 7 depending on your transmission. I suppose gas quality could be a factor too, but it would not be a significant as the other two.

If 1 us gallon = 1.2 uk gallons, the us MPG figure should be higher, right?

GuamX1 · 10-18-2012, 01:43 AM

BMW blows their doors off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Itgb · 10-18-2012, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WeekendDriver

If 1 us gallon = 1.2 uk gallons, the us MPG figure should be higher, right?

Um, no. The conversion is the other way around.

38mpg(UK) = 31.6mpg(US)

On another note, those headlights on the BMW are still hideous.

socal135 · 10-18-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jatran661

38mpg from an n55 ? How come I get 20mpg for the us spec n55? Is it cause theres something to do with the quality of our gas?

Be happy with 20 mpg, I average 15 mpg with a 135is

Mickcasey · 10-18-2012, 02:13 AM

He has to test again with 135 xdrive.

DrivenByE30 · 10-18-2012, 03:01 AM

washy · 10-18-2012, 03:26 AM

Cool review from Chris Harris as ever there.

The car sure does look a little contreversial, but it is an epic little car and I am really enjoying mine. Most fun I have had in a car in a while TBH.

wolz · 10-18-2012, 03:51 AM

what a fantastic review, finally. Gotta love Chris harris. He test the cars exactly how it is supposed to be done, adresseing the right questions, gives a very detailed and understandable feedback about the feel of the car etc

Obsiouly knows what he's talking about.

The engine-noise of that M135 gives me goose bumps, lovely!

Chris states "it is the bargain of the year". I would go even further, gotta be the bargain of decades

If I could wish for just one more thing I would have liked to see him drifting the car, just to see how the electronic diff keep up in that aspect.

He does mention it is "not as natural driftcar as 1M" because of the missing limited slip diff but he is impressed with the electronic diff. Would have liked to see how much "worse" it is at drifting.

sure the looks aren't the best but in every other aspect the M135i is such a winner.

franzzz · 10-18-2012, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickcasey

He has to test again with 135 xdrive.

+1

it' obvious that the Traction "4" advantage in Standing start !

RazBimmer · 10-18-2012, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Metak2you

I actually prefer the way the M135 looks over the boring Audi design. Chris did a great assessment of those two vehicles!

+1

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