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      05-24-2019, 11:11 AM   #1959
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      05-24-2019, 12:14 PM   #1960
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Buy the M40i hasn't been released (in the US) yet. Of course neither has the Zupra.
Not sure where you heard that, but I took delivery of my z4 M40i over a month ago
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      05-24-2019, 12:52 PM   #1961
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Buy the M40i hasn't been released (in the US) yet. Of course neither has the Zupra.
Then why are there currently 191 Z4 M40i available in the US on Cars.com?
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      05-24-2019, 12:55 PM   #1962
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Lighter, manual transmission, TRD 86 = more fun.....

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Buy the M40i hasn't been released (in the US) yet. Of course neither has the Zupra.
Not sure where you heard that, but I took delivery of my z4 M40i over a month ago
In the linked article. Sounds like the 30i was released first. Makes sense that both are out now since the article was probably written months ago.
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Lighter, manual transmission, TRD 86 = more fun.....

No it isn't. A Miata is. But a GT86 is a hot mess of bad steering, cheap interior and a huge torque dip at 4,500 rpm that Subie and Toyota refuse to address. It also likes to lean itself out under track use because of the Toyota developed dual mode injection.

It should be a great car, but I've extensively driven both versions both before and after LCI and would take an ND Miata over one every time.
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In the linked article. Sounds like the 30i was released first. Makes sense that both are out now since the article was probably written months ago.
Yes, it was released first, but both the 30i and M40i are available now.
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Buy the M40i hasn't been released (in the US) yet. Of course neither has the Zupra.
Sure it has (M40i), my local dealer has two of them. Saw this one last night, the paint is different for sure. The price on the thing is outrageous though, the sticker was like $75k. I think these Z4s are going to see some serious, serious depreciation after 2-3 years.

https://www.bmwofweststlouis.com/inv...hf9c0xlww40572
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In the linked article. Sounds like the 30i was released first. Makes sense that both are out now since the article was probably written months ago.
Yes, it was released first, but both the 30i and M40i are available now.
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Buy the M40i hasn't been released (in the US) yet. Of course neither has the Zupra.
Sure it has (M40i), my local dealer has two of them. Saw this one last night, the paint is different for sure. The price on the thing is outrageous though, the sticker was like $75k. I think these Z4s are going to see some serious, serious depreciation after 2-3 years.

https://www.bmwofweststlouis.com/inv...hf9c0xlww40572
Add in the chatter of the Boxster/Cayman going back to six cylinder power for the base and S model and the fat lady is already singing for yet another BMW Z4.

When there's so much area between a Miata and a Boxster, I never understand why BMW keeps trying to attack the Boxster head on with pricing. Just aim for the middle like you did with the Z3 and first Z4. Oh, and stop making it heavier and larger.
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Sure it has (M40i), my local dealer has two of them. Saw this one last night, the paint is different for sure. The price on the thing is outrageous though, the sticker was like $75k. I think these Z4s are going to see some serious, serious depreciation after 2-3 years.

https://www.bmwofweststlouis.com/inv...hf9c0xlww40572
There will eventually be some big lease cash and very friendly residuals. It will be a replay of the lease deals on the Z4 35is dealers couldn't move.
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Add in the chatter of the Boxster/Cayman going back to six cylinder power for the base and S model and the fat lady is already singing for yet another BMW Z4.

When there's so much area between a Miata and a Boxster, I never understand why BMW keeps trying to attack the Boxster head on with pricing. Just aim for the middle like you did with the Z3 and first Z4. Oh, and stop making it heavier and larger.
Now they also have to compete with essentially themselves. A 6-cylinder Supra that starts only a couple hundred dollars from their 4-cylinder Z4 msrp.
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      05-24-2019, 04:17 PM   #1970
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The Japanese press release.

https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/to...=ag478_from_kv

SZ: 4,900,000 / $44,737.00
SZ-R: 5,900,000 / $53,867.00
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“The new Supra produced at the Magna Steyr, Graz Plant in Austria is the first product in a comprehensive collaboration with BMW

So is there a second product coming?
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The more I learn of the Supra and Z4, the more I think the Supra is the clear winner of the pair by far. Now maybe just hope for a 6MT.
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