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      01-03-2013, 11:27 AM   #67
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On my M135i, I've gone for these 18" 385-style winter alloys (with Pirelli Sotto Zero runflats) which are one of the official BMW sets. More expensive than the 17" options but I think worth the extra money - I think it looks underwheeled on 17"s. Have to say I was not totally sold on the grey wheels when I first got the car but now, having seen the silver finish, I find myself preferring the grey finish:
Liking those winter wheels on your M135i.

I'm trying to hang on in there with my standard tyres and wheels and hoping for good weather!
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If I was only driving in the UK, I'd agree. But both my GF and I have family in Italy and we drove down there (via a ski break in the Alps) over Christmas and NY. I tend to do one ski trip to the Alps by car most years, so it was a no-brainer for me to get a set of winter tyres (the law requires you to either have chains or winter tyres in nearly all the Alpine countries and also in the hillier bits of central Italy).
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Heres some pics of my winter setup. Set of 16" Alutec Design E with 205/55/16 Hankook Winter ICept Evo Tyres. Ive been quite impressed so far with the grip in snow and ice aswell
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Which rim is it though? Can't seem to find that one in the catalog.
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Sweet!

Which rim is it though? Can't seem to find that one in the catalog.
These are MAK Bimmer 17" on non-runflats from Nokian.
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Sweet!

Which rim is it though? Can't seem to find that one in the catalog.
These are MAK Bimmer 17" on non-runflats from Nokian.
You had no trouble to fit them with m brake? What offset do you have on them?
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don't want to start a new tread for this question, but what tyre pressure is advisable for winter tires? I'm on 205/50-17" Continental TS810 SSR's.
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don't want to start a new tread for this question, but what tyre pressure is advisable for winter tires? I'm on 205/50-17" Continental TS810 SSR's.
I use around 35 psi in mine. In extremely slippery conditions, you can go down to 25-30 psi or so to get a larger contact patch, but only as a temporary emergency solution. If your car is fully laden, you might go as high as 40 psi.
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don't want to start a new tread for this question, but what tyre pressure is advisable for winter tires? I'm on 205/50-17" Continental TS810 SSR's.
Same as normal for that type of tyre. In very snowy conditions you'd be running snow tyres and may use a lower PSI, but if you're running winters/cold weather then use the BMW recommended pressure for that size of tyre/wheel.

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Not a great fan of OEM wheels so originally I was going to use my OEM 436M wheels for winter use but as I have lowered the car, OEM wheels sit too far in the arches for my preference and I didn't want to use spacers...



... so decided to get some OZ Ultraleggera 18x8" ET40 for my winter wheels with Falken HS439 225/40/18 92V winter tyres







So far pleased with the performance in our mild winter so far but still scrubbing them in hence early fitment... Still yet to see what these are like in snow though?
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Been agonising over buying winter tyres or not - and what alloys to get for them. Largely due to expense. I wish in the UK it would be a legal requirement to have them as it is in Germany LOL
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Been agonising over buying winter tyres or not - and what alloys to get for them. Largely due to expense. I wish in the UK it would be a legal requirement to have them as it is in Germany LOL
Same here...... In the end I caved in and purchased these. Paid 1480 from bmw UK. Check out German eBay for maybe better deals.



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Been agonising over buying winter tyres or not - and what alloys to get for them. Largely due to expense. I wish in the UK it would be a legal requirement to have them as it is in Germany LOL
Not an expense really. Unless you're limited by brake size, drop to a 16" alloy - tons of cheap 2nd hand oem BMW ones on ebay, and some high end winters.

My previous BMW was a 320D MSport tourer, staggered 18", I dropped to 16" / 205-55-16" Alloys - 100, tyres - 380 (Dunlop Winter Sport 3D). Ran them for two seasons before selling the car, sold the winters for 300.

I see that as pretty good value, the summers didn't get used for 4 months of the year, I could drive with confidence and much more safely than on summers (I live in Scotland).

Not sure about the Off-set on 16" for a F20/F21, but this is the kind of thing you want to get...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-X-GENUIN...item27dc40051e
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Been agonising over buying winter tyres or not - and what alloys to get for them. Largely due to expense. I wish in the UK it would be a legal requirement to have them as it is in Germany LOL
If you are not bothered about having alloys in Winter or don't fancy fitting a second hand set (Let's face it, you don't know what a second hand set has been through and that puts me off)

A set of 16" steel wheels new runflat tyres and covers can be had from a dealer for around 700 or 760 including storage and fittings.
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If you are not bothered about having alloys in Winter or don't fancy fitting a second hand set (Let's face it, you don't know what a second hand set has been through and that puts me off)

A set of 16" steel wheels new runflat tyres and covers can be had from a dealer for around 700 or 760 including storage and fittings.
Very good point, but an inspection of alloys is always recommended. Steels are ideal as well.

My folks run steels/winters on their Clio Sport (I know 70 year olds and they run about in a Clio Sport!). MyTyres do steels/winters as a package as well; fitted, balanced and delivered to your door.

As they're winters they will be subject to grit salt, possible kerb damage and what not then I can't see the logic in forking out a lot of . Steels or used alloys for me.

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As they're winters they will be subject to grit salt, possible kerb damage and what not then I can't see the logic in forking out a lot of . Steels or used alloys for me.
Why would there be more kerb damage in the winter than the summer?
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Why would there be more kerb damage in the winter than the summer?
Sliding into them when its slippery/icy/snowy, not seeing them when covered in deep snow, etc.

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A set of 16" steel wheels new runflat tyres and covers can be had from a dealer for around 700 or 760 including storage and fittings.
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As they're winters they will be subject to grit salt, possible kerb damage and what not then I can't see the logic in forking out a lot of . Steels or used alloys for me.
I agree with you both though would probably want to get alloys... vanity I guess
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I also read that a few don't think that the UK warrants winter tyres. The UK is a wide and varied place. I can see that statement holding some vlaue if you live on the South coast, but I live in Scotland; take a peek

http://s53.photobucket.com/user/6ixd...?sort=3&page=1

You will not get out of our street unless a) you have winter tyres or b) we all spend the whole day clearing it of snow.

One thing is for sure, winters on RWD BMW are better than an Audi Quattro!

PS, older pics from when we had the bad winters, but you never know up whats its going to do and we're generally 5-8 degress colder than down south!
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I'm in North Lincolnshire and 3" of snow and low temperatures stopped me reversing off my almost flat shingle driveway in my e46. If you want the capability to travel safely during wintry conditions then Winter tyres are worth it.

They are advised for temperatures below 7c as the harder compound of Summer tyres is less effective and wears faster so no snow doesn't necessarily rule out using them.

I'm going easy on mine though as since fitting them 4 weeks ago it's been temps in double figures for the most part lol.

I also reset the trip meter to keep tabs on how many miles the winters have done as these are my first set so I am keeping an eye on how they wear.
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I agree that the running cost of using winter wheels is about the same as summer wheels. The rims keep their value rather well if you don't abuse them.

It is a bit too digital to only classify tyres as winter and summer tyres. It is an analog scale from one to the other. Michelin Pilot SuperSport is an example of a tyre which is very optimized for summer conditions, but rather useless in the winter. There are also tyres for sale in Nordic countries which are useless in summer conditions, but very good when it is cold and slippery. Going 100+ km/h with those tyres feels rather unsafe.

There are also a lot of tyres in between, which can do a little bit of both, but not excel at anything. If you want to have only one set of wheels, I think you better go for one of these. The better solution is of course to have dedicated wheels for summer and winter use.

When I buy new summer tyres, I start using them in the autumn. That is when you need the maximum tread depth. It also wears them in, so they are ready for some track action next spring. Brand new tyres are not very suited for track use, unless it's raining.

It can be sensible to have smaller rims for the winter tyres. That makes the wheels lighter, which is good for both comfort and grip when the snow and ice gets bumpy. Taller tyre sidewalls makes them more compliant as well, which is generally an advantage in slippery conditions. I prefer wheel designs that are easily cleaned in the winter.

Wide winter tyres have more grip on firm ground like tarmac and ice, while narrow winter tyres are better on loose surfaces like snow and slush.
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