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You then go on about how elections at the national/Federal level can influence local policy. I gave you an example of that with DC. If the DC council felt so strongly about this bill then they wouldn't have pulled it back and let it run its course through Congress and ultimately the President. They didn't. Even members aligned to the same party in the Senate are siding towards blocking this bill otherwise, it wouldn't make it out of the Senate for Presidential signature. And I won't even go on about how you feel the ICE bans are appropriate as there are tons of posts with facts in this thread that say otherwise. |
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With respect to windmills and birds, a friend recently told me they were in Hawaii for vacation. During one of these tour guides, the guide talked about the windmills built there. That they don't even run at anywhere near capacity because they have to monitor some birds there and shut down the windmills when the birds are flying by them. |
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03-07-2023, 11:13 AM | #1543 |
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03-07-2023, 11:21 AM | #1544 |
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12 years until 2035 and somehow expecting a great green revolution (in the background of a long future recession) which requires giga billions(to borrow a term) of new investment is just a ideological fantasy.
In a lighter vein by 2035 greta and how dare you gang would have become adults and moved on with life and probably the government can roll things back without school strikes. |
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The challenge for other states and those who oppose BEVs is that reality. With the world’s largest markets going BEV and some states going BEV as well it might become economically challenging to offer affordable ICE vehicles in the future. As the economies of scale will flip toward BEV and away from ICE. People hoping to toss out the CA ICE ban or block it with a national mandate are hoping to use the large US market as a way to keep some economies of scale and manufacturer interest in place. The US is a large and diverse market that has unique challenges on a per-state basis. The Federalism model is the best way to handle the EV transition IMHO. Quote:
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I ignored your DC comments as they aren’t relevant. DC is not a state nor does it have a state government. No one in Congress is elected by a single citizen in DC and, as such, they aren’t beholden to them. You can’t use DC to discuss Federalism. |
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03-07-2023, 01:40 PM | #1546 | |
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U.S. government to end gas-powered vehicle purchases by 2035 under Biden order https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bid...35-2021-12-08/ President Biden Mandate: No More ICE Cars by 2035 https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...ment-fleet.htm President Joe Biden is launching a new mandate that would focus on electric vehicles, ousting internal combustion engines that use gas and diesel by 2035. The new directive from the POTUS is for the entire country and not an individual order for every state as what governors or other state leaders have implemented on their campaigns. If other markets are already forcing industry shift, and that industry is already implementing their EV plans, a ban shouldn't be needed. |
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unlikely she indocterined, which is her right |
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03-07-2023, 02:27 PM | #1549 | |
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https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105635 The Federal Government is free to mandate they all drive Chevy’s too, that doesn’t mean BMW wouldn’t have a market to sell their vehicles in the US… It also wouldn’t mean that all other car brands are banned in the US… It would just mean that the Feds want Chevy’s. That’s it. You can argue that by buying EVs the Feds will spend more than buying an ICE today, but with the amount of back scratching that happens on government contracts I doubt the Feds buy even ICE vehicles at the same price as the rest of us. |
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Those simple facts and some common sense tells me that there won't be a sufficient power supply available by 2035. Can anyone think of a time when government has managed to do anything on time or on budget? |
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If that were strictly true, then there wouldn't be a national debt...
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https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...es-2023-03-08/
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tesla has already disagreed with the nhtsa's findings before they come out... an over the air update will be rolled out to to deploy air bag when steering detaches to maintain safety. |
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Tes steering wheels dropping off when driving.. a new one that didn't even have the nut fitted, so I gather they are not even test driven to see if they are roadworthy? Pays your money and go down to the delivery dock to collect it and could end up in the bay.
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