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      08-09-2022, 10:24 AM   #1101
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4-5 junk that may or not run/run right or 2 really nice awesome cars? I'll take the latter.

4-5 awesome cars that are good to go? We all car people here so no shit we'd take that option. Next dumb statement?

You keep talking about the $ you have so where are your 4-5 great cars?

Who's talking about money? You're trying to push this discussion towards that. You and the other yoyo keep talking about people buy corvettes because they can't get ferrari's. Who the fuck wants a 13 year old ferrari? I don't. And i can get one.

My C7Z is paid for. Look up the value. Still worth 50-60k. That's 50-60k directly into my pocket if i decide to sell.

Both my model 3 and M3 are 2022MY's. My C8 stingray and C8Z BOTH WILL ARRIVE in 2023.

So yeah, i rather have those 4 cars over a 13 year old ferrari.

Get your insecurities fixed dude.
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YES!!! Lock this fucking thread up!!!! Then the C8z nut swinging champ will have to find something else to blab about. 😂 Might have to take down some of the Dungeon and Dragon posters to fit more Vette porn on the walls😳🔫.
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      08-09-2022, 11:30 AM   #1102
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Who's talking about money? You're trying to push this discussion towards that. You and the other yoyo keep talking about people buy corvettes because they can't get ferrari's. Who the fuck wants a 13 year old ferrari? I don't. And i can get one.

My C7Z is paid for. Look up the value. Still worth 50-60k. That's 50-60k directly into my pocket if i decide to sell.

Both my model 3 and M3 are 2022MY's. My C8 stingray and C8Z BOTH WILL ARRIVE in 2023.

So yeah, i rather have those 4 cars over a 13 year old ferrari.

Get your insecurities fixed dude.
I may have confused you with another poster that kept talking about his income, sorry.

I never said people buy Vettes b/c they cannot afford Ferrari, that was the other guy.

Yea, my Hellcat is "worth" what I paid when new too. This artificial market will settle at some point...
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      08-09-2022, 12:30 PM   #1103
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I may have confused you with another poster that kept talking about his income, sorry.

I never said people buy Vettes b/c they cannot afford Ferrari, that was the other guy.

Yea, my Hellcat is "worth" what I paid when new too. This artificial market will settle at some point...
Itís all good. Listen Iím not trying to show off because I know thereís people here with lots more money. That wasnít my point.

Iím saying a car that GM built that was a dream for so many decades to finally be a reality, to offer the general public their version of a Ferrari is remarkable.

Itís not only faster than itís benchmark but itís more powerful, sounds better and can be had for way cheaper with a full warranty. What isnít appealing about that?

No one is saying the corvette is now americas Ferrari and people are dumb for buying Ferraris.

Iím saying that the car, for what it is, is a better buy. A bang for your buck. Car of the century value for performance.

Thatís always been corvettes.
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      08-09-2022, 01:04 PM   #1104
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Itís all good. Listen Iím not trying to show off because I know thereís people here with lots more money. That wasnít my point.

Iím saying a car that GM built that was a dream for so many decades to finally be a reality, to offer the general public their version of a Ferrari is remarkable.

Itís not only faster than itís benchmark but itís more powerful, sounds better and can be had for way cheaper with a full warranty. What isnít appealing about that?

No one is saying the corvette is now americas Ferrari and people are dumb for buying Ferraris.

Iím saying that the car, for what it is, is a better buy. A bang for your buck. Car of the century value for performance.

Thatís always been corvettes.
We don't have any track times, etc yet so we don't know what it is faster or slower than today.

My main beef is Tadge/GM lied, on multiple occasions, about what pricing would be. Then they go & jack up all the option prices Porsche style and require you to get the $9k CCB if you want the now $10k high wing pkg etc. THat kind of crap should piss everyone off. Especially since we are still talking about a mass produced Chevy, not a GT3RS.

The ZTK option on the C7 ZR1, the pkg that gave you the high carbon wing, splitter, etc was $3k. Let that sink in.
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      08-09-2022, 02:36 PM   #1105
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The ZTK option on the C7 ZR1, the pkg that gave you the high carbon wing, splitter, etc was $3k. Let that sink in.
Weren't carbon brakes standard on the ZR1? So the $8500+ charge was baked into the price already. So a wing and splitter for $3k not a full performance aero and suspension/brakes upgrade package.
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      08-09-2022, 03:36 PM   #1106
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We don't have any track times, etc yet so we don't know what it is faster or slower than today.

My main beef is Tadge/GM lied, on multiple occasions, about what pricing would be. Then they go & jack up all the option prices Porsche style and require you to get the $9k CCB if you want the now $10k high wing pkg etc. THat kind of crap should piss everyone off. Especially since we are still talking about a mass produced Chevy, not a GT3RS.

The ZTK option on the C7 ZR1, the pkg that gave you the high carbon wing, splitter, etc was $3k. Let that sink in.

I agree. Thatís why i said numerous times until we see more performance data this golden child of a car isnít anything more than just a high performance variant of a high performance base car, which is the stingray.

If the numbers show otherwise, then that cements the car as gmís first supercar in my opinion. The rumors about it and what we know so far makes it that. But until we see real world data, then itís not true yet. Thatís my whole point in this thread.

I donít know if we can say tadge lied. All he said was that we should expect pricing to be in line with previous z06. But donít forget that was 4MYís ago and without knowing about the economy with the inflation. I do believe if it wasnít for inflation the car would be around 92k. Or def under 100k as I said multiple times early in this thread. None of us predicting 106k msrp with options driving the car cost to 160k or so.

If gm knew this would cause this much back talk, then they obviously know something we donít know yet. Maybe the car is a better contender than the c7zr which had a similar price tag when you option up.


Youíre right this car isnít a gt3rs but think about what makes that car special. Donít look at the brand. Look at its capabilities. If the c8z can provide a similar experience for a cheaper price tag, even if itís not by much, is still a bargain. Not many car makers are doing new v8ís anymore let alone an NA v8 of this magnitude. People are overlooking this.

This is the last of its kind. The final send off to one of the greatest zo6ís ever made. That means something to most people buying them. Track times are actually secondary to them.
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None of us predicting 106k msrp with options driving the car cost to 160k or so.
I don't know who "us" is but I wasn't part of those who guessed the Z06 would be below $100k. Shit- I remember people estimating the Stingray would be near $100k before pricing was announced! The straight fact is a Z06 isn't a <$100k vehicle. Not sure who is so delusional or ignorant about the automobile market to think it is. Perhaps wishful thinking clouded peoples' judgment.
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I don't know who "us" is but I wasn't part of those who guessed the Z07 would be below $100k. Shit- I remember people estimating the Stingray would be near $100k before pricing was announced! The straight fact is a Z06 isn't a <$100k vehicle. Not sure who is so delusional or ignorant about the automobile market to think it is. Perhaps wishful thinking clouded peoples' judgment.
I'm not talking about a Z07, i am talking about a base z06 at MSRP.

The Z07 package is always an extra option to the z06.

There were many people on the corvette forum who thought the car would be 85k. Jesus christ they couldn't be more wrong.
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I'm not talking about a Z07, i am talking about a base z06 at MSRP.

The Z07 package is always an extra option to the z06.

There were many people on the corvette forum who thought the car would be 85k. Jesus christ they couldn't be more wrong.
That's because that probably wasn't too far off. Many don't know this, but the C8 platform is the most profitable generation corvette GM has ever made (meaning the margins are FAT - they make more on a single C8 than they did on any other individual corvette prior). The Z06 was probably going to start right under $100k. Then inflation happened, COVID caused production prices to increase and GM started shoveling money into EV R&D. And here we are.
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That's because that probably wasn't too far off. Many don't know this, but the C8 platform is the most profitable generation corvette GM has ever made (meaning they make more on a a single C8 than they did on any other individual corvette prior). The Z06 was probably going to start right under $100k. Then inflation happened, COVID caused production prices to increase and GM started shoveling money into EV R&D. And here we are.
You're preaching to the choir. I been saying that the C8 generation is nothing like the past but the yoyo's on that forum think they know better. They don't.

I actually would not be surprised if they price the hybrid LT2 C8 at 85-90. An attractive middle ground that will show buyers they don't need/have to wait for a z06 when you have AWD and a small hybrid system to the already torquey LT2. The only thing that was lacking with the stingray is top end and i believe that would be addressed with the hybrid model.

The ZR1 would start at 175k. Then the ZORA (full EV model IMHO), will exceed 200k. Basically taking aim at every hyper EV out there, even the tesla roadster that supposed to come around 2024.

GM isn't playing games with the C8. This is the best generation so far. And we're only on the 2nd variant.
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I don't know who "us" is but I wasn't part of those who guessed the Z07 would be below $100k. Shit- I remember people estimating the Stingray would be near $100k before pricing was announced! The straight fact is a Z06 isn't a <$100k vehicle. Not sure who is so delusional or ignorant about the automobile market to think it is. Perhaps wishful thinking clouded peoples' judgment.
I'm not talking about a Z07, i am talking about a base z06 at MSRP.

The Z07 package is always an extra option to the z06.

There were many people on the corvette forum who thought the car would be 85k. Jesus christ they couldn't be more wrong.
I corrected my post to Z06 but I guess you responded before you saw my correction.
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Who wants a 13 year old Ferrari? Who wants a run of the mill Corvette? There is nothing special about Corvette's for the millionth time. They are as common as Honda Civics. This thread is a joke
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Who wants a 13 year old Ferrari? Who wants a run of the mill Corvette? There is nothing special about Corvette's for the millionth time. They are as common as Honda Civics. This thread is a joke
Here comes the copy paste submit reply:-). We all know it😳🔫
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Here comes the copy paste submit reply:-). We all know it😳🔫
Sort of a pot meet kettle thing there.
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A Ferrari is a special car. I would rather have 2009 F430 than a new Corvette. Wouldn't even think twice
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Sort of a pot meet kettle thing there.
Just trying to help out. Some are just a lost cause. Lol
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