[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

You never know, it's a small, small world.

But in all likelihood, yes, very few of us will meet IRL. Feel like I'm getting back to my high school days of being a geek by saying that, but it is the most likely outcome.

What is nice is that in spite of the fact most of us are unlikely to meet, we still share a common interest that unites us, and that gets us passionate enough to help each other out regardless and provide advice. And it is those different viewpoints that we each bring to the table that helps each of us grow as we consider them and take the good from each, and ignore the bad (because, let's face it, we're all flawed).

I like these forums too, they've helped me consider things I wouldn't have thought of otherwise.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

Hey thanks...
I replied to never enough above while you were writing, but yes, no kids, and nothing changed physically or behaviourally, my guess is that the no initiation from her part drove me away.
Maybe she was raised that way. I don't know.

Hmm, well, if that's her nature, it isn't going to be easy to change, and it'll be easy to slip back into what is comfortable later on.

And if that is key to you, then it won't be easy. Is she willing to commit to changing and initiating? Are you willing to respond? If you shut her down when she tries, it will never work, she'll get embarrassed or feel hurt, and won't continue.

Have you explained this clearly to her, that the lack of initiation on her part is extremely important to you? Has she committed to changing? Have you asked whether there is something you need to fix for her sake?

[nyalpine90]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

I love her in the sense of I would do anything for her. As I love my friends.
I have lots of respect for her, and I do find her very intelligent.

You're touching on a very good point, as lately I found myself being a little short on her shortcomings, as in I have lost respect for her. When we split up she became "friends" of people she'd badmouth a lot. She still does (stuff like "oh darn I have to go meet my friends grrr I'd rather not, they're exhausting, they're stupid but I care for them") that lost my respect.

I don't think I'd find her physically attractive today, but I wouldn't kick her out of bed. Sometimes I think she's cute. She hasn't changed much, neither have I. We're both in relatively good shape.

There's something about me though, that I thought was common to most men, is that you may find someone very attractive (say in a picture), but when they open their mouths they become ugly... or the other way around. Personality is about 70% of a person's good looks for me.

sounds like communication problem, you need to be straight up with her. let her know how you feel, and ask her whats going on.

or You just got bored of her but still care/love her.

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Then you better grab her by the pussy already...

oh that reminds me i have to vote today

[nyalpine90]

holding back of expressing yourself of your emotions is never good.
keeping marriage sprung is the key, if it becomes a routine job it gets boring and ... gets uglier

[Turkish Pickle]

grrrr her jeans dyed my seats
im pissed

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Bayerische Motoren Werke

grrrr her jeans dyed my seats
im pissed

It is just a VW....

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Bayerische Motoren Werke

grrrr her jeans dyed my seats
im pissed

Stop making the pussy wet then you savage.

[Turkish Pickle]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

It is just a VW....

it's a lincoln
regardless of what it is, my cars are painfully clean within a college budget, i get hella compliments. the previous owner also took good care of it, sitting inside you wouldn't be able to tell its a 8 year old car with 4 owners at 97k

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Stop making the pussy wet then you savage.

i dont know what makes that happen! i truly don't know how i manage to attract some girls, but given my track record with "crazy" (not the estrogen induced one, actual crazy) i guess i really should figure it out

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Bayerische Motoren Werke

it's a lincoln
regardless of what it is, my cars are painfully clean within a college budget, i get hella compliments. the previous owner also took good care of it, sitting inside you wouldn't be able to tell its a 8 year old car with 4 owners at 97k


i dont know what makes that happen! i truly don't know how i manage to attract some girls, but given my track record with "crazy" (not the estrogen induced one, actual crazy) i guess i really should figure it out

My bad. My definite bad. I saw MK...and then I just automatically went VW in my mind.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Bayerische Motoren Werke

it's a lincoln
regardless of what it is, my cars are painfully clean within a college budget, i get hella compliments. the previous owner also took good care of it, sitting inside you wouldn't be able to tell its a 8 year old car with 4 owners at 97k


i dont know what makes that happen! i truly don't know how i manage to attract some girls, but given my track record with "crazy" (not the estrogen induced one, actual crazy) i guess i really should figure it out

Maybe you be crazy too yo

I'm not right in the head. Guess it goes back to Jody's artist thing since I am one too.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

My bad. My definite bad. I saw MK...and then I just automatically went VW in my mind.

Get out. No Hellcat for you.

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Maybe you be crazy too yo

I'm not right in the head. Guess it goes back to Jody's artist thing since I am one too.

Who is this Jody character you keep referring to?

I didn't know you were an artist also. Funny how we always tend to find each other.

[nyalpine90]

at times i feel im getting crazier as years goes by ....
i talk to myself to stay calm when some1 cuts me off on the highway..

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

Who is this Jody character you keep referring to?

I didn't know you were an artist also. Funny how we always tend to find each other.

I wear many hats. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by nyalpine90

at times i feel im getting crazier as years goes by ....
i talk to myself to stay calm when some1 cuts me off on the highway..

I talk to myself in my house all the time. To stay calm in the car, I just turn up the stereo or mash the go pedal when I can.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Get out. No Hellcat for you.

Nazi.



Seinfeld really was a good show.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

I'm not right in the head. Guess it goes back to Jody's artist thing since I am one too.

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

I didn't know you were an artist also. Funny how we always tend to find each other.

Sure, we could use the word funny.

Or, we could use the word probable. I mean there are only so many people using the soup kitchens and homeless shelters of the world, you're bound to bump into a lot of your kind....


I'm kidding...but only partially because you both have other careers, and art seems to be a side hobby. I think those that do it as a full time career probably struggle a fair bit. Obviously, some make it big, but I feel like most seem to be struggling a bit.

That, and I don't have an appreciation for art. I've never understood it. At least the abstract stuff - I can't help but think my 4 year old could do that. For stuff that's fine detail, I can at least appreciate the talent that went into making it, but I still don't see the value proposition. But that's me, and I'm generally an outlier.

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by nyalpine90

at times i feel im getting crazier as years goes by ....
i talk to myself to stay calm when some1 cuts me off on the highway..

I talk to myself all the time. It's good to have intelligent conversation, that's what I tell myself anyway. No reason to worry unless you start referring to yourself in third person while talking to yourself.

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

I wear many hats. You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Just make sure one of them is a jimmy hat you promiscuous bastard.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

Sure, we could use the word funny.

Or, we could use the word probable. I mean there are only so many people using the soup kitchens and homeless shelters of the world, you're bound to bump into a lot of your kind....


I'm kidding...but only partially because you both have other careers, and art seems to be a side hobby. I think those that do it as a full time career probably struggle a fair bit. Obviously, some make it big, but I feel like most seem to be struggling a bit.

That, and I don't have an appreciation for art. I've never understood it. At least the abstract stuff - I can't help but think my 4 year old could do that. For stuff that's fine detail, I can at least appreciate the talent that went into making it, but I still don't see the value proposition. But that's me, and I'm generally an outlier.

Painting is not the only art form . I have not painted or done any drawing in a while. I do still write.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

I talk to myself all the time. It's good to have intelligent conversation, that's what I tell myself anyway. No reason to worry unless you start referring to yourself in third person while talking to yourself.



Just make sure one of them is a jimmy hat you promiscuous bastard.

But condoms ruin the sensation.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Never_Enough

Painting is not the only art form . I have not painted or done any drawing in a while. I do still write.

I wouldn't consider writing to be art. At least not fine arts, which is the category I automatically assume anyone who calls themselves an artist to be in.

Someone who writes fiction / non fiction, I'd consider an author. Or writer.