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      02-28-2019, 10:56 AM   #111
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i bet you are questioning whether it's worth it...
you bought a *gasp* JEEP..

are you a noob to the automotive ownership world?

JUST IN CASE nobody ever told you... JEEP is chrysler is dodge is *now* fiat.., you didnt want them b4 you def dont want them now
i think even Wranglers are total pieces of crap but they got fanboys worse than BMW..
but you DEFINITELY dont want any other jeep.. did you ever notice back in the mid to 2000s the jeep grand Cherokee which is jeeps flag ship every single one of them encountered on the roads a tail light would be not working.. theose cars are total piece of crap dude the same with all.. design and engineering is garbage pure garbage..
case in point about engineer A girl I dated once drove a liberty and the sunvisors clip-in was facing the windshield so whenever you go to pull down your sunvisor to block the sun it pops the hell out.. SOOOO friggin stupid.. the clip just needed to be turned towards the interior cabin but nope but as horrible as Assembly is on those vehicles I wouldn't be surprised if it was supposed to be turned the other direction but during assembly the factory worker just screwed it in the wrong direction- i can literally encounter any dodge vehicle ive never looked at and do a walk around and in five minutes make an hour long video about how stupid it is ..

if you want a beater you need to get something reliable ...like in case nobody's ever told you before. ... a Toyota

preferably a Japanese built Toyota

my 2000 4runner is like wolverine
Hate to break it to you but my Japan built 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser had at least 5 times the issues of my Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

FJ had a differential ring gear break, multiple front axle shafts leaks, 3 failed throw out bearings, driver door lock stopped working, drivers seat would not hold height adjustment, and a few other issues. All fixed under the bumper to bumper factory warranty. With 1000 miles of that warranty left and facing the potential of having to pay for repairs on that pile of garbage... well after the last clutch repair I drove it straight from the Toyota dealership service department to the Jeep dealership and traded for my Rubicon.

Which I now have 120k miles on since 2011 and never an issue never left me stranded and proven to be the most dependable vehicle I’ve owned tied with a 1997 Honda prelude Type SH.

To answer the OP.. all my rides are beaters lol




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Hate to break it to you but my Japan built 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser had at least 5 times the issues of my Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

FJ had a differential ring gear break, multiple front axle shafts leaks, 3 failed throw out bearings, driver door lock stopped working, drivers seat would not hold height adjustment, and a few other issues. All fixed under the bumper to bumper factory warranty. With 1000 miles of that warranty left and facing the potential of having to pay for repairs on that pile of garbage... well after the last clutch repair I drove it straight from the Toyota dealership service department to the Jeep dealership and traded for my Rubicon.

Which I now have 120k miles on since 2011 and never an issue never left me stranded and proven to be the most dependable vehicle I’ve owned tied with a 1997 Honda prelude Type SH.

To answer the OP.. all my rides are beaters lol
You don't hear too many of these stories. It's usually the other way around.
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what sort of cost? oil changes, gas, property tax, liability insurance... that's it really. I guess if you pay for an apartment parking spot it does become costly.

plus just having a beater means when you are done with your car, you can sell it, kick back, and patiently find your next dream car. No need to be suckered into a new lease the day you trade in. you can find a clean used example instead and save more money.
Definitely. That's probably why I still keep it around. Plus it's in really good condition.
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i bet you are questioning whether it's worth it...
you bought a *gasp* JEEP..

are you a noob to the automotive ownership world?

JUST IN CASE nobody ever told you... JEEP is chrysler is dodge is *now* fiat.., you didnt want them b4 you def dont want them now
i think even Wranglers are total pieces of crap but they got fanboys worse than BMW..
but you DEFINITELY dont want any other jeep.. did you ever notice back in the mid to 2000s the jeep grand Cherokee which is jeeps flag ship every single one of them encountered on the roads a tail light would be not working.. theose cars are total piece of crap dude the same with all.. design and engineering is garbage pure garbage..
case in point about engineer A girl I dated once drove a liberty and the sunvisors clip-in was facing the windshield so whenever you go to pull down your sunvisor to block the sun it pops the hell out.. SOOOO friggin stupid.. the clip just needed to be turned towards the interior cabin but nope but as horrible as Assembly is on those vehicles I wouldn't be surprised if it was supposed to be turned the other direction but during assembly the factory worker just screwed it in the wrong direction- i can literally encounter any dodge vehicle ive never looked at and do a walk around and in five minutes make an hour long video about how stupid it is ..

if you want a beater you need to get something reliable ...like in case nobody's ever told you before. ... a Toyota

preferably a Japanese built Toyota

my 2000 4runner is like wolverine
Yeah, I've only owned a few vehicles in my lifetime. I did have a Nissan Sentra back in high school which I completely modded and took apart. Had Azev rims, painted that Velvet Blue, leather interior It was fun car. But wow, looking back, what a waste of money. Wish I would have invested it instead. That's why I'm weary of sinking money on modding the F80. But yeah, I still consider myself a noob overall when it comes to vehicles.

The Liberty is a 2004 and if you were to ask me if I would consider buying another one I would say HELL NO!. At 40k miles a piston blew out of nowhere. Had to fight Chrysler to cover it. Rear power windows have broken 4 times. Driver's side once. On the 5, I opened the door panels, used a heavy duty zip tie and locked it in place. Enough of that nonsense.

Overall, the car hasn't given me much trouble but I don't really drive much. My cousin has a 4 Runner late 90s, that thing is still going!
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I merely expressed my opinion, which is of equal value to yours. If there was any "boat" to miss, I would say you missed it. Cheers.
Ah shucks don't get your panties in a bunch ol' chap. I didn't discount your opinion at all. I merely explained with reason why beater cars are very helpful and answered your question, "why not drive the good car?" .. an answer that I would think is common sense, that's the only reason i said you missed the S.S. Beater Logic Boat
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Hate to break it to you but my Japan built 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser had at least 5 times the issues of my Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.

FJ had a differential ring gear break, multiple front axle shafts leaks, 3 failed throw out bearings, driver door lock stopped working, drivers seat would not hold height adjustment, and a few other issues. All fixed under the bumper to bumper factory warranty. With 1000 miles of that warranty left and facing the potential of having to pay for repairs on that pile of garbage... well after the last clutch repair I drove it straight from the Toyota dealership service department to the Jeep dealership and traded for my Rubicon.

Which I now have 120k miles on since 2011 and never an issue never left me stranded and proven to be the most dependable vehicle I’ve owned tied with a 1997 Honda prelude Type SH.

To answer the OP.. all my rides are beaters lol



the FJ cruiser is one of the biggest failures of Toyotas life and you could tell just by looking at it that's why I've never even considered buying one it's a gimmick but sounds like you probably abused yours a little bit and looks like it's what youre doing in the picture

if you want a real vehicle get a pre 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser or a hilux. diesels

but
LOL Jeep fanboys like a moth to a flame coming to the defense of their beloved General Purpose most simple overpriced vehicle being manufactured. The wrangler is the only thing that keeps dodge and Chrysler in business because the profit margin is so high bc they've been making them so long and they are so simple and people just can't get enough of them and for the most ridiculous reasons like because the majority of the time people say I just like being able take the doors off it's so cool LOL ��
those things are downright dangerous and outdated

and dude you bought an FJ cruiser? And that color? And now a 328 I mean I'm just not even gonna say anything
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dude you bought an FJ cruiser? And that color? And now a 328 I mean I'm just not even gonna say anything
All the drivetrain parts that failed on my FJ are common to the 4 runner. Seems like you take offense at being corrected when you are wrong... stooping to snide comments huh?

You’re wrangler comments are just nonsensical. I can tell you this, wranglers are expensive in your opinion because your comparisons are downright silly. When you say they are expensive what are you comparing that with? Yes they are expensive if you are comparing with other crossover suvs designed for road use that have none of the specialized features of a wrangler.

They are expensive because they have features other vehicles don’t and incorporating them cost more. Wranglers can’t cross platform and make for cheap development like other SUVs and vehicles. No other vehicles have folding windshields and meet 2020 crash standards. No other vehicles have 4 removable doors or even 4 door convertibles. What car/suv besides wrangler and m4gts comes with a roll cage off the showroom floor? Name another vehicle with front and rear locking differentials and tell me what is its MSRP?

No other SUV’s have solid front axles which are stronger and superior off-road (hence why f250 and Ram 2500 have them and not the weaker 1 ton trucks like F150 etc.). If my FJ would have had solid front axles I wouldn’t have experienced all those front end issues, and the great landcruisers of old had solid axles also.

All these things cost more to incorporate that’s why your comments are silly. It’s like comparing your M5 to a Camry and saying the Camry seats 4 and has leather the M5 is way overpriced. Well not so, the M5 was designed to perform to a different standard and that cost more and we need to compare with other vehicles designed around those parameters. (You wouldn’t think to cost compare a purpose built race car to a commuter car right, even though both can drive on the road?)

The problem is there really aren’t any vehicles to compare Wrangler with, so you are doing the best you can but it just doesn’t work. The FJ happened to be the closest comparison to be made recently and that’s why one ended up in my garage, but I can tell you first hand even it doesn’t offer the same capability or feature set and it’s not a good comparison.

Enzo Ferrari once said “The Jeep is America’s only true sports car” because he understood it was purpose designed and excellent in meeting the purpose it was designed for which is very specific and not the same purpose as other SUV’s like your 4 runner which is a road vehicle with some off-road ability. Wrangler is designed first for off-road so it isn’t entirely fair to compare to other vehicles which are not primarily (as in foremost) designed for and/or nearly as capable in that area.

If seeing a bigger picture than your ignorant statements makes me a fanboy, then so be it. But what I have stated is the truth ha!

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and dude you bought an FJ cruiser? And that color? And now a 328 I mean I'm just not even gonna say anything
What's wrong with that color? If I was to get an FJ I'd get that color too, I think it looks pretty nice. And why the 328i hate? That's a lot of smack talk from someone who has an old $35k M car.
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What's wrong with that color? If I was to get an FJ I'd get that color too, I think it looks pretty nice. And why the 328i hate? That's a lot of smack talk from someone who has an old $35k M car.
Color preference is definitely an opinion but the cool thing about car colors is there's a market and the market says that car color is undesirable bc ..nobody buys it. If you want to say well that color isn't offered much or it's an individual color.
.... listen, if it was desirable people would be wrapping their car in it etc. but that doesn't happen and you basically never see it on the road because the majority of people think that color is not nice.

moving on-

Please tell me where you found a '14 M5 with 15k miles for $35k..regardless of spec.

please i beg of you, tell me so i can buy them and sell them..

but hey, even if i had bought it for $35k at least its mine, and not a lease lol

lot of smack talk for a guy in san diego that leases m3's and can't even drive them over 20mph
leases a 3 series every 3 years .. and proud of it on the avatar details lol
joined the forum in '13 with a 328.. now finally leasing M3.. on top of an i3 lease

it's a proverbial entry-level leasing bonanza over here!

as if leasing a bmw wasn't bad enough
.. you owned volkswag...i mean audis..?

we are done here.
I don't choose what colors I like based on what other people like or if it's popular. Also, what's wrong with entry level? And what's wrong with leasing? You know the M3CS has a residual of 61% right? You sound insecure.
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Yeah, I've only owned a few vehicles in my lifetime. I did have a Nissan Sentra back in high school which I completely modded and took apart. Had Azev rims, painted that Velvet Blue, leather interior It was fun car. But wow, looking back, what a waste of money. Wish I would have invested it instead. That's why I'm weary of sinking money on modding the F80. But yeah, I still consider myself a noob overall when it comes to vehicles.
this is true as well. I see some F80s with tons of mods here. They look nice but at the end of the day I sit back and think... wow you could have had a nice 911 for the amount of money you paid. And you can actually recoupe more money when you sell the Porsche. But to each there own.

I've seen a lot of people dump so much money in their car that it becomes pointless to sell.
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I don't choose what colors I like based on what other people like or if it's popular. Also, what's wrong with entry level? And what's wrong with leasing? You know the M3CS has a residual of 61% right? You sound insecure.
No insecurity, just fact checking

I didn't say anything about why you like the color. I answered your question about what was wrong with it. I simply said that it's not an attractive color and the majority of people will agree with me.
you're one of these people that does weird stuff and justifies it by saying "well what's normal?!?." Let me answer that for you. Normal is the average. average is the majority. so normal is what is by majority. if the majority of people were homosexual, homosexuality would be the norm. meaning it would be normal and heterosexuality would be abnormal. not saying there's anything wrong with homosexuality other than it is nonsense because the point of sex is to reproduce and keep our species going. But in our modern society keeping our species alive isnt a worry. so who cares, but it is completely contradictory to nature. and it just isn't the norm and that is why.
your color preference also isn't the norm.
that's not to say you're any less than anyone else that's just saying your taste differs from the majority.
I can sit here as well as anyone and talk about how the majority is wrong a lot and all that but in this case I'm going to agree with the masses and say that color just isn't attractive on a vehicle.

what else isn't the norm is leasing a vehicle. why?
welllll,
when you lease, you don't own it, you can't do anything to it you can't modify it and you have a mileage restriction.
when the lease is over you give it back and you've paid all those monthly payments for nothing. Now I know that at the end of the lease you can buy it out but then youve really lost money because they're going to really stick it to you when they sell it to you after you've already paid however much money monthly.

in other words you are doing nothing but renting it and you are controlled as to what you can do to it with the only perk being a lower monthly payment.
if you buy a brand new one you get a warranty if you buy a used one you can get a warranty so you're not leasing it for warranty and worry free ownership.

most people lease because they can't afford payment on buying new but they are the type of person that must have a new car regardless of if they can afford it or not.
and you can actually lease cheaper than you can finance a used one too that's how they get you to lease them.
that's why most people lease. on the other hand you can just pretend you own it and when your lease runs out you can pretend you're just trading in on thr new model and you can just ignore where the pymnt is going and just accept the fact that you're just paying a payment to drive a car and as long as you make a payment youve got a car. but you are still just throwing your money away for the most part with no chance of ever owning it or having it be yours.
its kind of disheartening when u think about it.

but most people like to own their vehicle and not rent it.

I choose not to buy expensive high-end luxury vehicles new because they lose so much value in the first few years, but after that they plateau. I mean I can't afford it either but it's also wasteful. in that regard leasing the car is a good idea because you don't have to worry about losing money on the depreciation. so I can respect a lease and understand it for that. kinda..

what's wrong with entry-level? nothing really on somethings but there's always a corner cut or it just always missing something u want

but there's nothing wrong with an M3 that was just a stab at you for trying to talk crap by lowballing the value of my car when you lease..

just sayin'
You should do the math. Bimmers lease very well especially my i3 and my M3. I lease them because i tend to sell my cars after 2-3 years. I buy Japanese because I tend to keep those longer. In fact, I own 2 other cars. Only me and my accountant know for sure what I can and can't afford. Leasing does not mean I can't "afford" it. Leasing means I like the residual baked into the lease and it's more convenient to have a prearranged purchase price at lease term. Long story short, if I bought my M3 and sold it in 3 years, it would cost about the same as leasing it except it's economy proof to lease. I also get a slightly better business write off, more liquidity and less exposure. Not only that, gap covers the residual in case of accidents. In other words you don't suffer diminished value should you get in an accident.

You are assuming a lot. I bought my 340i and I sold it in 3 months. I owned my Audi S4 and pretty much every car prior. I don't need to "own" a car to boost my ego so you can say I don't own my car all you want, I'll be in a new M car in 3 years or less. Poor me!

As for my color preferences, you know exactly what you were doing. You were attempting to shame me because my preference isn't popular. In fact pretty much all you've done in this thread is shame other members. There is a $36k '14 M5 in Redondo beach btw so whether I under or overvalued your car only proves that you either overpaid or underpaid. Your retort that I undervalued it tells me you were offended that I thought your car wansn't as expensive as it is. Does that mean you sensitive to how expensive other people think your car is?
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most people lease because they can't afford payment on buying new but they are the type of person that must have a new car regardless of if they can afford it or not.
and you can actually lease cheaper than you can finance a used one too that's how they get you to lease them.
that's why most people lease.


Leasing is a rich man's game IMO.
Anyway, back on topic. Leasing a car is a good way to have a fancy "beater" that you can just turn in after you're done. If I were in CA, an i3 would be very attractive.
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Ah shucks don't get your panties in a bunch ol' chap. I didn't discount your opinion at all. I merely explained with reason why beater cars are very helpful and answered your question, "why not drive the good car?" .. an answer that I would think is common sense, that's the only reason i said you missed the S.S. Beater Logic Boat
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No, we are not. Based on your reply to me, and to several other long term and respected members on this forum, you are a rude, ill informed and annoying troll. No loss if you leave, you just joined anyway.

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most people lease because they can't afford payment on buying new but they are the type of person that must have a new car regardless of if they can afford it or not.
and you can actually lease cheaper than you can finance a used one too that's how they get you to lease them.
that's why most people lease.


Leasing is a rich man's game IMO.
Anyway, back on topic. Leasing a car is a good way to have a fancy "beater" that you can just turn in after you're done. If I were in CA, an i3 would be very attractive.
Yeah not to thread jack too much but buying an M3 and keeping it for more than 6 years is cheaper than leasing cars back to back like I do. I'm paying for the ease and convenience or a new car every 24-36 mo. It's contradicting to assume it's about affordability in all cases. My much more wealthy millionaire friends lease as well. I'm pretty sure they can afford it he cars but the low exposure is what is appealing.
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No, we are not. Based on your reply to me, and to several other long term and respected members on this forum, you are a rude, ill informed and annoying troll. No loss if you leave, you just joined anyway.

Bye.
"you're new, you can leave" is your response to me saying don't get upset we are friends here? to which you also respond "no we're not" ..

man, what am i going to do?! such nice people in here lol
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can you read? or do you just put your two cents in before you read everything because I put in more scenarios than just affordability for leasing. ..I actually said a reason to lease is to just jump from one new car to the next.

read my whole thread before you respond with something I covered.

millionaire friends.. blah blah.. nobody cares that doesn't give you credibility
You're telling me those scenarios weren't backhanded? I'm not asking you to agree with me, but treat others with respect and they will reciprocate. I'm no saint, but you get no sympathy from me by shaming and belittling other members because of their vehicle preferences. Those who live in a glass house should not throw stones.
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      03-01-2019, 12:52 PM   #129
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No insecurity, just fact checking

I didn't say anything about why you like the color. I answered your question about what was wrong with it. I simply said that it's not an attractive color and the majority of people will agree with me.
you're one of these people that does weird stuff and justifies it by saying "well what's normal?!?." Let me answer that for you. Normal is the average. average is the majority. so normal is what is by majority. if the majority of people were homosexual, homosexuality would be the norm. meaning it would be normal and heterosexuality would be abnormal. not saying there's anything wrong with homosexuality other than it is nonsense because the point of sex is to reproduce and keep our species going. But in our modern society keeping our species alive isnt a worry. so who cares, but it is completely contradictory to nature. and it just isn't the norm and that is why.
your color preference also isn't the norm.
that's not to say you're any less than anyone else that's just saying your taste differs from the majority.
I can sit here as well as anyone and talk about how the majority is wrong a lot and all that but in this case I'm going to agree with the masses and say that color just isn't attractive on a vehicle.

what else isn't the norm is leasing a vehicle. why?
welllll,
when you lease, you don't own it, you can't do anything to it you can't modify it and you have a mileage restriction.
when the lease is over you give it back and you've paid all those monthly payments for nothing. Now I know that at the end of the lease you can buy it out but then youve really lost money because they're going to really stick it to you when they sell it to you after you've already paid however much money monthly.

in other words you are doing nothing but renting it and you are controlled as to what you can do to it with the only perk being a lower monthly payment.
if you buy a brand new one you get a warranty if you buy a used one you can get a warranty so you're not leasing it for warranty and worry free ownership.

most people lease because they can't afford payment on buying new but they are the type of person that must have a new car regardless of if they can afford it or not.
and you can actually lease cheaper than you can finance a used one too that's how they get you to lease them.
that's why most people lease. on the other hand you can just pretend you own it and when your lease runs out you can pretend you're just trading in on thr new model and you can just ignore where the pymnt is going and just accept the fact that you're just paying a payment to drive a car and as long as you make a payment youve got a car. but you are still just throwing your money away for the most part with no chance of ever owning it or having it be yours.
its kind of disheartening when u think about it.

but most people like to own their vehicle and not rent it.

I choose not to buy expensive high-end luxury vehicles new because they lose so much value in the first few years, but after that they plateau. I mean I can't afford it either but it's also wasteful. in that regard leasing the car is a good idea because you don't have to worry about losing money on the depreciation. so I can respect a lease and understand it for that. kinda..

what's wrong with entry-level? nothing really on somethings but there's always a corner cut or it just always missing something u want

but there's nothing wrong with an M3 that was just a stab at you for trying to talk crap by lowballing the value of my car when you lease..

just sayin'
I think you need to brush up on how leases work and the financial implications of owning vs leasing. jmg alluded to some it being the fixed residual and overall downside risk protection but there are many pros/cons to each form of ownership with overall cost being only one factor.

Your comments come off as smug and ill-informed but I know I am not the first person in here to tell you that...
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Look at mr. insecurity over here pulling out the big guns: "only my accountant knows what I can and can't afford" & "i own others cars" & "my millionaire friends do ______" .. after he tried to slam me for buying a 2014 M5 trying to say its old and undervaluing it by $20k.

i stopped reading after the accountant line because this is honestly a waste of my time.

Leases are for affordability.. that is why BMW advertises it heavily such as this: "own a BMW ______ for only $13 a day!!
Having an accountant and friends who are more well off than me is not "pulling out the big guns". Accountants are pretty standard if you own a business and having more wealthy friends is humbling.

You called me out for my car history, am I not supposed to defend myself by giving you a more accurate picture of my current car situation?

As for slamming you for your car, how's that medicine taste? Does it taste like a blue FJ cruiser and a 328i? I bet it does!
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Leasing is a rich man's game IMO.
Anyway, back on topic. Leasing a car is a good way to have a fancy "beater" that you can just turn in after you're done.
i agree. it is a Rich man's game because when you lease, you lose your ass, so if you're rich it's just a game no harm done.

and thank you for letting you know you don't know what you're talking about either.
- if you treat your lease like a beater you will pay dearly because the dealership will make you pay to repair anything and everything you have damaged and if you go over the allotted mileage allowance that they've given you they will charge you $.10 or more for every mile over...

NO rich person is going to lease so that a dealership can dictate to them how many miles they can drive and what they can and can't do to the car!

Rich people don't do so well with other people telling them what they can and can't do, especially with their possessions

here you go Mr. Bilzerian, a brand new Ferrari, oh by the way you can't put but 150 miles on it per week and if you don't bring it back in immaculate condition we're going to charge you out the ass for any tears in the seat that you're hot ass sluts put in them with their stilettos ..

Yeaaah.. NO.. , you are all fools blowing smoke up your own asses to make yourselves feel better about your shitty decision making, reasoning, logic, deduction etcetc etc.

This is what I get for accidentally posting on a non M5 board .. lesson learned
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lol everyone's finances are different. sometimes leasing is better, sometimes financing is better, sometimes just buying the car outright is better.

low exposure is a big part of leasing. You can use your money to invest and make money rather than parking it all in a depreciating asset like a bmw long term. You could do the same with financing but it will require a large down payment.
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