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F1 2024: winter transition, development and pre season events

So now that the 2023 season is over, this topic should bridge all the news about development, events, gossip and other predictions before the new 2024 season starts (first race: GP Bahrein - march 3rd 2024).
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So regarding all the gossip, speculation and alledged accusations regarding the Toto & Susie Wolff debacle, apparently Toto said something in a team bosses meeting that he could've only known with inside knowledge.
I haven't read everything about it, but does anyone know what Toto said that was so secret/confidential?
Because I doubt it was the bathroom cleaning schedule for the f1 academy events....

I really haven't got a clue what this is all about, apart from that Susie could (unintentionally) relay confidential information to Toto in their private enviroment. But that was obviously known when they gave Susie that job. But what kind of information could someone have who is head of the F1 academy (a womans race class) that would be sensitive to an F1 team boss?
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I haven't read everything about it, but does anyone know what Toto said that was so secret/confidential?
FIA dropped their "investigation" whatever they did, who knows.

The magazine didn't say what was revealed if anything, but that Toto said something and that the other team principals were concerned about the information he had, implying that Susie leaked information to Toto.

There's stretching the truth for click-bait, and then there's fabrication of lies directed at two individuals... Mercedes consider suing: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-...wolff-sulayem/ This is directed at FIA for their "investigation" slip up, but could easily expand. This whole thing started because a rag decided to print something just to stir up controversy. The click-bait style journalism in F1 is really rampant... pretty annoying, imo.
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So regarding all the gossip, speculation and alledged accusations regarding the Toto & Susie Wolff debacle, apparently Toto said something in a team bosses meeting that he could've only known with inside knowledge.
I haven't read everything about it, but does anyone know what Toto said that was so secret/confidential?
Because I doubt it was the bathroom cleaning schedule for the f1 academy events....

I really haven't got a clue what this is all about, apart from that Susie could (unintentionally) relay confidential information to Toto in their private enviroment. But that was obviously known when they gave Susie that job. But what kind of information could someone have who is head of the F1 academy (a womans race class) that would be sensitive to an F1 team boss?
Thanks for starting the new thread, the Abu Dhabi race one was getting a little overloaded with unconnected items of debate.
Wolff has threatened to sue whoever brought up the COE item that's causing a ruckus with the Wolfs. I think he should just let it go as its not such a big deal and indeed should he go ahead with suing whoever (FIA) ? then doesn't it occur to him that he would have to reveal whatever it was that was uttered by him at the managers meeting.
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FIA dropped their "investigation" whatever they did, who knows.
I wonder who predicted that?
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Thanks for starting the new thread, the Abu Dhabi race one was getting a little overloaded with unconnected items of debate.
Wolff has threatened to sue whoever brought up the COE item that's causing a ruckus with the Wolfs. I think he should just let it go as its not such a big deal and indeed should he go ahead with suing whoever (FIA) ? then doesn't it occur to him that he would have to reveal whatever it was that was uttered by him at the managers meeting.
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So now that the 2023 season is over, this topic should bridge all the news about development, events, gossip and other predictions before the new 2024 season starts (first race: GP Bahrein - 3 march 2024).
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^ Can't wait, Ben and Wolff are probably having a few jars now to calm themselves down heheh
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The magazine didn't say what was revealed if anything, but that Toto said something and that the other team principals were concerned about the information he had, implying that Susie leaked information to Toto.
Yes I understood that.
But there's just no trace of anything regarding what was said, and I also don't think there's a trace of information coming from other team principals.
And then there was that statement of all teams simultaniously that they didn't file a complaint at the FIA....

It's all very very weird. Either nothing has happened or something has happened that they want to keep (and solve) behind close doors (that last thing is pretty normal for F1 though)

And now there was that rumour that it was all turning around in an efford to get rid of Ben Sulayem....
I sometimes wonder if Ben Sulayem is the right person to lead the FIA.
Of course the FIA is bigger than F1, but F1 is about 80% or more of it's revenue.
Ben Sulayem's roots are not in F1 but rally, and he's I think the first FIA president that's not from F1 origin.
I wonder if he plays by the F1 traditions/unwritten rules.
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^ Can't wait, Ben and Wolff are probably having a few jars now to calm themselves down heheh
Yeah sure . Let them get drunk , it helps them to forget that MAX has won '19 races in this 2023 season ..
A new record in the F1 history !

Booze is a pain killer my friend !

A drunken '2022 flashback from the FIA president "Mohammed Ahmed bin Sulayem" !

As you can see : The mess was real !!!

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And the drama continues...

Apparently Ben Sulayem is ill...Something with a fall and a concussion, and might not be at the ceremony... or in a reduced role...



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^ Can't wait, Ben and Wolff are probably having a few jars now to calm themselves down heheh
Breaking !!!

The FIA have announced that Mohammed Ben Sulayem has been treated in hospital after being taken ill following a fall and suffering concussion !

But ...Was it a fall ? => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/25265...-fia-gala.html
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And the drama continues...

Apparently Ben Sulayem is ill...Something with a fall and a concussion, and might not be at the ceremony... or in a reduced role...



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Ben's accident is part of Wolff's winter BlitzKrieg !
Ben should get drunk now , for the pain ...
As for later today ,please let's keep him in the background !

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Breaking !!!

The FIA have announced that Mohammed Ben Sulayem has been treated in hospital after being taken ill following a fall and suffering concussion !

But ...Was it a fall ? => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/25265...-fia-gala.html
Well my friend perhaps he had a little drink and then missed a step, who knows.
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Well my friend perhaps he had a little drink and then missed a step, who knows.
Hic ! Hiccccccc.....' !
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Breaking !!!

The FIA have announced that Mohammed Ben Sulayem has been treated in hospital after being taken ill following a fall and suffering concussion !

But ...Was it a fall ? => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/25265...-fia-gala.html
If it's concussion then the effects of brain injury could be serious, the last thing you want is a head hit in a fall !
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If it's concussion then the effects of brain injury could be serious, the last thing you want is a head hit in a fall !
Ben is an idiot , even when he isn't drunk
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Ben is an idiot , even when he isn't drunk
Accidents happen I suppose but right on at this time ? It's strange.
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Accidents happen I suppose but right on at this time ? It's strange.
A first '2023 inpression . MAX and Kelly are looking really good . They all look good !



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Whoever it will be ..Ben's replacer will be a gift for all of us ..
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