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      11-22-2012, 09:02 PM   #45
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oh man M8 could work if the same body as i8 but m10 if completely diff, but M1 reestablished would be amazing. a v12 seems extreme/surreal so how about a v10 and throw in a pair of turbos since BMW seems so obsessed with fuel economy
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      11-23-2012, 10:56 AM   #46
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I think that if BMW is to issue a legit ///M stand-alone supercar, it should use the M5's twin-turbo 4.4L V8 tweaked to at least 620ps and massively focus on weight reduction... which is not a done deal at all, I was checking the weight of the "ground-breaking" i8 concept, extensively using carbon fiber and a tiny engine - still 1480 Kg which is quite puzzling. The M10 should match the MP4-12C performance-wise.

BMW definitely has the engineering proficiency to also make an M12 hypercar using its twin-turbo 6.0L V12 at around 850ps in order to rival Ferrari and Lamborghini, but it probably wouldn't sell due to a very high selling price for a brand lacking this much prestige.

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Can't wait.
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I was checking the weight of the "ground-breaking" i8 concept, extensively using carbon fiber and a tiny engine - still 1480 Kg which is quite puzzling. The M10 should match the MP4-12C performance-wise.
It may have a small engine, but it also has an electric motor in the nose, and a spine made from Lithium Ion Batteries - knock those off and I'm sure you'd loose a couple of hundred kilo's - although the net effect would also be to raise the i8's (probable) very low centre of gravity.

edit: the more I think about it... the i8 has been built around it's drive train, using it as a base for a more conventional car would surely just end up compromising the finished product?

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So no large 8 Series 2 door coupé with V12 engine to rival the CL... but the ultra luxury 4 door coupé above the 7 Series may still be badged 8 Series Gran Coupé
(Which as a sidenote means that the supercar would be badged M10 and not M8)
That's how I see it, too. Rumors are that BMW wants to revive the "CS Concept," the concept from 2007 that was meant to bridge the gap between BMW and Rolls Royce. That car should be named 8 series Gran Coupe.
According to Scott, currently there is no market for 8 series coupe, but that might change in the future. So reserve 8 series name and call the future super car, M10.
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I think BMW is long overdue for a supercar... the closest I can remember would be the Z8 and well, not really super. We had the 8 series before that as well, but I would still consider it "obtainable" whereas I view supercars as unobtainable.
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