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      11-21-2023, 01:35 PM   #1
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F1 2023: Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina (Nov 26)

F1 2023: Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina (Nov 26)

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Yas Island
When was the track built?

In 2006, plans were announced to develop Yas Island, located just to the east of Abu Dhabi, into a new tourist destination, with a major part of the plans centring around a 5.5km race track. The diggers rolled into what would become the Yas Marina Circuit in May 2007, with the project completed by October 2009.
When was its first Grand Prix?

In 2009. The track debuted as that year’s Formula 1 season finale, with Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel winning from team mate Mark Webber and the already-crowned 2009 champion Jenson Button. Vettel would go on to secure his first title in Abu Dhabi a year later, amid much crying.
What’s the circuit like?

The Hermann Tilke-designed track is dominated by its 1.2km straight between Turns 5 and 6 – which, with slow-speed corners marking its beginning and end, makes it a honeypot for overtaking moves. Other highlights include the tricky run through Turns 10 and 11 into 12, which forces the drivers to brake hard with bags of lateral load still on the car. Track modifications ahead of the 2021 race, shortening the lap slightly to 5.28km, have only added to its excitement.
Why go?

Yas Island was a blank canvas for developers to turn into a tourist attraction, and 11 years and $40 billion later, they’ve nearly finished doing just that. Seven hotels, Ferrari’s indoor theme park, a mall, a water park, a golf course, a beach, a concert arena and a nightclub, all framed by perfect Emirati weather. What more could you want?
Where is the best place to watch?

Assuming you can’t get a room with a trackside view in the spectacular whale-shaped Yas Hotel – or a berth in a boat’s cabin in the marina – opt for a spot in the West Grandstand, a great place to watch all the overtaking action into Turn 6. Or if you’re more there for the atmos, stick yourself in the Main Grandstand overlooking the start-finish straight and enjoy Abu Dhabi’s famed pyrotechnics. It might be worth trying to get a seat high up in whatever grandstand you choose, though, if you’re looking to keep out of the sun.
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So what are your predictions?

With the battle for #2nd place in the WCC there is still things to be won at the last race of the season.
Last year, Mercedes didn't have a good race here. It was a RB and Ferrari that occupied the top4
Last weekend in Vegas, Ferrari was very strong for sure.

My prediction:
1. VER
2. PER
3. LEC
4. ALO
5. SAI
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So what are your predictions?
#FerrariThings
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Best post so far !
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Best post so far !
Rumor has it (leaked via Sky TV) that Mercedes torpedoed the possibility of waiving the 10-place grid drop of Sainz at the Las Vegas race. That grid drop compromised Sainz's race (start from P12 instead of from P2 next to his team mate Leclerc). The setback was a golden opportunity for Mercedes to widen the 20 points WCC gap. However, Ferrari still managed to reduce that gap to merely 4 points.

Would it be OK if drivers "help" Leclerc and Sainz a little during the Abu Dhabi race to collect enough points to get #2 WCC ? Ferrari could use the extra millions awarded for #2 WCC to foot repair bills regarding Sainz's car, which FIA is not willing (yet?) to compensate (cf. the Las Vegas FP1 incident).

Remember the final laps at Jerez in 1997: Hakkinen hesitated to push flatout and Coulthard slowed down in the final meters to ensure that Villeneuve would get WDC in 1997 (instead of Schumacher).

See from 08:30 onwards:
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Earphones will be removed from Wolff in good time.
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Rumor has it (leaked via Sky TV) that Mercedes torpedoed the possibility of waiving the 10-place grid drop of Sainz at the Las Vegas race. That grid drop compromised Sainz's race (start from P12 instead of from P2 next to his team mate Leclerc). The setback was a golden opportunity for Mercedes to widen the 20 points WCC gap. However, Ferrari still managed to reduce that gap to merely 4 points.

Would it be OK if drivers "help" Leclerc and Sainz a little during the Abu Dhabi race to collect enough points to get #2 WCC ? Ferrari could use the extra millions awarded for #2 WCC to foot repair bills regarding Sainz's car, which FIA is not willing (yet?) to compensate (cf. the Las Vegas FP1 incident).

Remember the final laps at Jerez in 1997: Hakkinen hesitated to push flatout and Coulthard slowed down in the final meters to ensure that Villeneuve would get WDC in 1997 (instead of Schumacher).

See from 08:30 onwards:
To answer your question :

No , I don't think so . Today own interests are too important in F1 .

Ferrari made a big step forwards in Vegas .So hopefully , Ferrari can pull it off at Abu Dhabi.

FORZA FERRARI !
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My prediction is that Ferrari's resurgence at Vegas puts them on course to take over second overall in the 2023 Constructors title for the coming night race with Max moving into third place of the all time wins in F1 history.
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This weekend 18 wins could become 19 !
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To answer your question :

No , I don't think so . Today own interests are too important in F1 .

Ferrari made a big step forwards in Vegas .So hopefully , Ferrari can pull it off at Abu Dhabi.

FORZA FERRARI !
My friend, I disagree with this post
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My friend, I disagree with this post
#nomercy
I mean by pull it off that Ferrari can take P2 in WCC .

In other words : Hopefully Ferrari beats Mercedes in the WCC ranking.

NO #FerrariThings anymore ...
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I mean by pull it off that Ferrari can take P2 in WCC .

In other words : Hopefully Ferrari beats Mercedes in the WCC ranking.

NO #FerrariThings anymore ...
Totally in agreement with that
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so what are your predictions?
1 - ver
2 - nor
3 - per
4 - lec
5 - alo
6 - pia
7 - sai
8 - rus
9 - gas
10 - alb
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Rumor has it (leaked via Sky TV) that Mercedes torpedoed the possibility of waiving the 10-place grid drop of Sainz at the Las Vegas race. That grid drop compromised Sainz's race (start from P12 instead of from P2 next to his team mate Leclerc). The setback was a golden opportunity for Mercedes to widen the 20 points WCC gap. However, Ferrari still managed to reduce that gap to merely 4 points.
George Russel had a 5 place grid penalty for a manhole cover destroying his car in 2019 Baku. His repair didn't involve quite as much as Sainz, so less penalty. He was racing for Williams at the time, but there's an obvious relationship between Merc and Williams. I wouldn't be surprised if Toto was just arguing for equal treatment under the rules, which makes sense. Apply the rules evenly, and if somethign doesn't make sense in the rules, change it.
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1. LEC
2. SAI

Nobody else matters!!!!!
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Rumor has it (leaked via Sky TV) that Mercedes torpedoed the possibility of waiving the 10-place grid drop of Sainz at the Las Vegas race. That grid drop compromised Sainz's race (start from P12 instead of from P2 next to his team mate Leclerc). The setback was a golden opportunity for Mercedes to widen the 20 points WCC gap. However, Ferrari still managed to reduce that gap to merely 4 points.

Would it be OK if drivers "help" Leclerc and Sainz a little during the Abu Dhabi race to collect enough points to get #2 WCC ? Ferrari could use the extra millions awarded for #2 WCC to foot repair bills regarding Sainz's car, which FIA is not willing (yet?) to compensate (cf. the Las Vegas FP1 incident).

Remember the final laps at Jerez in 1997: Hakkinen hesitated to push flatout and Coulthard slowed down in the final meters to ensure that Villeneuve would get WDC in 1997 (instead of Schumacher).

See from 08:30 onwards:
One of the best vids I have seen of JV explaining and putting into action his challenge for the championship against the tyrannical might of MS and his cohorts Irvine with Fontana who were doing their best to block and frustrate Jacques all through quali and the race.
It's only at the end of the race that Hakkinen and Coulthard did a little to make sure JV finished third on a wing and a prayer with his battery just hanging on two wires (after being rammed by MS) which could have separated at any time.
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1. LEC
2. SAI

Nobody else matters!!!!!
No doubt they are quicker than earlier but they'll need their Weetabix to stay in touch with Max
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Rumor has it (leaked via Sky TV) that Mercedes torpedoed the possibility of waiving the 10-place grid drop of Sainz at the Las Vegas race. That grid drop compromised Sainz's race (start from P12 instead of from P2 next to his team mate Leclerc). The setback was a golden opportunity for Mercedes to widen the 20 points WCC gap. However, Ferrari still managed to reduce that gap to merely 4 points.

Would it be OK if drivers "help" Leclerc and Sainz a little during the Abu Dhabi race to collect enough points to get #2 WCC ? Ferrari could use the extra millions awarded for #2 WCC to foot repair bills regarding Sainz's car, which FIA is not willing (yet?) to compensate (cf. the Las Vegas FP1 incident).

Remember the final laps at Jerez in 1997: Hakkinen hesitated to push flatout and Coulthard slowed down in the final meters to ensure that Villeneuve would get WDC in 1997 (instead of Schumacher).

See from 08:30 onwards:
So ...LEW knocked on Red Bull's door => https://www.gpfans.com/nl/f1-nieuws/...-bij-mercedes/
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1. LEC
2. SAI

Nobody else matters!!!!!
Yeah . That's what they need to beat the Mercs. MAX should help them
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My prediction is that Ferrari's resurgence at Vegas puts them on course to take over second overall in the 2023 Constructors title for the coming night race with Max moving into third place of the all time wins in F1 history.
Exactly => https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank...ikipedia_page/
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