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      06-28-2022, 10:04 AM   #45
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I agree. They won't have the M5 Touring in the US unless they also bring the 530/540/550/560 Touring (used a bunch of numbers there because I have no idea which engine variant it would have).

Just need to hope that they do bring it.
I for one look forward to the BMW 565e xDrive M70i PHEV wagon.
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I don't think this will come to fruition with the EU mandate of 50% emissions reduction in 2030 and 100% emissions reduction in 2035, that was passed overnight while you were sleeping

There is no reason to develop hybrids that they can't sell in the EU.

Unless they quickly plonk the XM drive train into the G99 and sell it tomorrow

In which case I will put an order in that I can't afford!

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I remember back in November stating this was coming and everyone "in the know" said I was wrong. Get ready US!
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A month ago I promised to get you some clarity on the possibility of G99's US sales. Fulfilling that promise now: G99 is planned for the North American market while the regular G61 is not.
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A month ago I promised to get you some clarity on the possibility of G99's US sales. Fulfilling that promise now: G99 is planned for the North American market while the regular G61 is not.
So, for people who aren't good with model designations (myself included)….

The next gen M5 will come to the US in a Touring version? But the regular 5 series won't have a Touring?
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So, for people who aren't good with model designations (myself included)….

The next gen M5 will come to the US in a Touring version? But the regular 5 series won't have a Touring?
It will but not in the US.
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So, for people who aren't good with model designations (myself included)….

The next gen M5 will come to the US in a Touring version? But the regular 5 series won't have a Touring?
It will but not in the US.
Sorry, but… what will?

The 5 series touring will be built for RoW, but only the Touring coming to the US is the M5 Touring?

Just want to make sure I'm not getting my hopes up. Lol
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A month ago I promised to get you some clarity on the possibility of G99's US sales. Fulfilling that promise now: G99 is planned for the North American market while the regular G61 is not.
Is the G99 going to be available in USA at the same time as it will be available in Europe or it might come later?
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Is the G99 going to be available in USA at the same time as it will be available in Europe or it might come later?
Too soon to tell. But I don't remember any example of an M car that wasn't made available in all markets at the same time (adjusted for shipping of course).
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Sorry, but… what will?

The 5 series touring will be built for RoW, but only the Touring coming to the US is the M5 Touring?

Just want to make sure I'm not getting my hopes up. Lol
At this point, the G60 (5 series sedan), G90 (M5 sedan) and the G99 (M5 touring) are on the table for the US, but not the G61 (5 series touring).

So now either BMW lied to us and could have always brought the G81 (M3 touring) stateside, or they realized there is demand and designed/built the base G61 in such a way that (even though they don't bring it to the US) they can homologate the M5 touring (G99) without major issues in the US.
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Great news. Now we just have to pray that the next gen doesn't get beaver grill or the ugly headlights.
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Sorry, but… what will?

The 5 series touring will be built for RoW, but only the Touring coming to the US is the M5 Touring?

Just want to make sure I'm not getting my hopes up. Lol
At this point, the G60 (5 series sedan), G90 (M5 sedan) and the G99 (M5 touring) are on the table for the US, but not the G61 (5 series touring).

So now either BMW lied to us and could have always brought the G81 (M3 touring) stateside, or they realized there is demand and designed/built the base G61 in such a way that (even though they don't bring it to the US) they can homologate the M5 touring (G99) without major issues in the US.
I am wondering if the price premium on the G99 will be crazy just because of that.
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I am wondering if the price premium on the G99 will be crazy just because of that.
I'd be very surprised if BMWNA put a premium on it (apart from the usual 1-3k touring add-ons compared to the sedan), but ADMs are of course a possibility if BMW decides to limit availability.
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It'd be hilarious if BMW put a premium on the Touring.

"We can't give the US the Touring, it won't sell!"
"Okay let's give the US the Touring... with a premium, because it'll... sell?"
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I am wondering if the price premium on the G99 will be crazy just because of that.
I'd be very surprised if BMWNA put a premium on it (apart from the usual 1-3k touring add-ons compared to the sedan), but ADMs are of course a possibility if BMW decides to limit availability.
Perfect pricing wouldn't provide dealers an ability to add ADM. Retail would be the real obtainable market value.
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