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      08-07-2019, 04:18 PM   #287
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It honestly isn't the only thing I took away from your post....but....do you have a lot of Adidas wear in your closet?







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I saw an interesting interview the other day but I’ve been so busy I can’t recall where/when. The interviewee was saying that the males who do this (and it is mostly, but not exclusively male) are losers in the fight for dominance. (I don’t think there has been a shooter yet who was described as captain of the football team). As primates, this means reduced or no access to mates, resources, food, power. Thus in a quest to gain some measure of dominance they lash out. Why guns, well I also heard (again may be the same interviewee) that when a young male picks up a handgun there is a measurable increase in his testosterone.

The friend I mentioned several pages ago who talked about the shootings, points out that Americans tend to look like victims (looking down, at cell phones, being generally meek) and this is particularly true in large groups and at a place like WalMart.

Put those two themes together, and you get mass shootings in victim (non-alpha) rich environments. You don’t see shootings at a heavily male gym, or similar setting, for example.

This is a very interesting line of reasoning to me. I can’t say it is factually correct; I’m just reporting what I recall hearing, but it sure is intriguing.
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      08-07-2019, 04:38 PM   #289
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Respect to you Sir for serving and making the world a safer place!

However the Dutch haven't always been pacifists like you stated. Just check this very extensive list of wars fought:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...he_Netherlands

At some point in time though, the Dutch realised that an arms race against the neighbouring Euro super powers UK, Germany and France was just dumb and so instead they focussed on trade. Remember, the Netherlands is only the size of Maryland. It is simply indefensible when it comes to post WW1 modern warfare technology.
Thanks for the clarification. I’ll shall correct myself, in the modern era which I take as the early 1900’s. I do understand that the Dutch have always been traders and focused more on trade and the arts, culture all that and that’s fine but I don’t care lectures from foreigners on what they perceive about aspects of my country. They can do it as it’s a free and open forum but I don’t have to like it and I just commented on it.
Speaking of the Dutch traders, as I said earlier I have Dutch blood. My father came across family roots that had my Dutch ancestors living in New Amsterdam. Just so happened they owned good sized parcels of land “downtown” which today is in the Wall St area. That land today would be worth billions! Somewhere along the line it was sold off and I got.......niets
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Stotguns with 3Buck could be very serious man killers considering you could have 6 shots in 5 seconds. The problem would be reloading though.
Depends on the shotgun really. One of mine can fire off 6 shots in half a second, the other is a bulldog pump and holds 15 rounds (or 13 3" 00Buck shells). Definitely more deadly than an assault handgun.
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I really often am mistaken in the correct indication of the type of weapon and ask for your help.
How to properly called:
1. smoothbore gun - shotgun?
2. long-barrelled firearm (rifled gun) - rifle?
3. handgun - gun?
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Pistol or handgun are interchangeable

All are classified as firearms, or loosely as guns.....
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      08-07-2019, 05:35 PM   #292
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Hollywood blockbuster that satirizes killing of ‘deplorables’ causes outrage: ‘Demented and evil’
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ie-deplorables

Isn't that special.
Thanks Hollywood!
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The Dutch have always been pacifists and not willing to jump into the Great War and pronounced they would remain neutral ....
You know what ww1 was about and how much sense it made?
Did it made any sense to fight in that war because austrian bloke franz ferdinand was shot by serbian bloke gavril princip?

As for dutch militairy passivism here I sit thinking that the dutch are allies in nato (and UN) and having taken part in most/all major NATO campaign and lots of UN missions doing their share....
Guess those men really weren't there then. I mean you should know and all as you've seen it all.

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Besides, the Dutch roll over and allow the enemy to take over and often helped them to turn over their own citizens for certain death.
That probably is the most accurate description you probably learnt at school in your excellent schooling system. You sir an an expert on oppression in the 40-45 years and truely know how to honor for instance all people who gave their lives in the resistance for saying this. Truely well said.


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Don’t think a country would try and take a shot at the U.S. now.?
OF course not. And you're right, its not because of the size of the army you have and how that is equipped. Its of course because people have guns at home. I'm sure that also was the major soviets' concern during the cold war. The nuclear arsenal, vast army, marine fleet and airforce fleet was of no importance, it was the guns at home.
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And you're right, its not because of the size of the army you have and how that is equipped. Its of course because people have guns at home. I'm sure that also was the major soviets' concern during the cold war. The nuclear arsenal, vast army, marine fleet and airforce fleet was of no importance, it was the guns at home.
Venezuela (the irony!), Uruguay, and Japan have all issued travel warnings to their citizens this week warning that the USA is a dangerous place where everyone carries guns. The national security disinformation plan is working wonderfully.....
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https://www.apnews.com/5e44f7bd106f4fce8da21c2c11f334fc

We need common sense knife safety legislation.
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https://www.apnews.com/5e44f7bd106f4fce8da21c2c11f334fc

We need common sense knife safety legislation.
We need a knife ban, like the one in London. And forks, you think you stabby little bastards are slick bit we are coming for you next.

We need comprehensive knife reform
20 day wait on steak knives
And a ban on knives over 12in aka assault knives.
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We need a knife ban, like the one in London. And forks, you think you stabby little bastards are slick bit we are coming for you next.

We need comprehensive knife reform
20 day wait on steak knives
And a ban on knives over 12in aka assault knives.
I'm a little confused by all of this stuff, isn't killing folks already banned?
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I'm a little confused by all of this stuff, isn't killing folks already banned?
Actually this wasn’t a knife free zone, that’s the issue
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Actually this wasn’t a knife free zone, that’s the issue
Problem is that assualt forks were allowed in knife free zones.
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Full of hate, robbery, hate homicide, some nice writing there.
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so the WH faked Trump meeting with patients in El Paso...

According to the Washington Post all of the patients refused to meet with him. Maybe they'll hire some professional actors for the campaign video?
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According to the Washington Post all of the patients refused to meet with him. Maybe they'll hire some professional actors for the campaign video?
Some, in El Paso. Not "all".
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Some, in El Paso. Not "all".
The headline says some, but CNN is reporting that none of the patients in El Paso would meet with him.

P.S. Looks like two patients who had already been discharged agreed to meet with him. This is getting weirder by the minute. Were they brought back? Put in Bed?

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That's what you get for trusting CNN. He met with several patients and their families inside the hospital, per hospital administrators.

What a sad state of affairs. Pitiful, absolutely pitiful.
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too bad you couldn't be there...

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That's what you get for trusting CNN. He met with several patients and their families inside the hospital, per hospital administrators.

What a sad state of affairs. Pitiful, absolutely pitiful.
No doubt Trump was a hit in the maternity ward. But it doesn't look like the undischarged shooting victims met with him.
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That's what you get for trusting CNN. He met with several patients and their families inside the hospital, per hospital administrators.

What a sad state of affairs. Pitiful, absolutely pitiful.

This is utterly nuts now. You dont have to be a fan of the president but at least have enough integrity to greet him. I was not a fan of Bush or Obama during his second term but if I had met them I would shake hands like a man and wish them a good day.
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This is utterly nuts now. You dont have to be a fan of the president but at least have enough integrity to greet him. I was not a fan of Bush or Obama during his second term but if I had met them I would shake hands like a man and wish them a good day.
Yeah but its trumps fault, he got then shot.
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