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A 1er hatch would NEVER sell in America. And Americans have short term memory they are buying more SUVs again. Oh and BMW is concentrating on small cars...they are making huge investments in the mega city vehicle and I have high hopes for new 1er. |
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12-14-2010, 07:30 PM | #26 |
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Never said they werent successful. To the contrary I was citing successful BMW niche creations. Thats also why I mentioned the 1600 and the Mini
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I will admit, when I realized that the base price of an X5 was less than the 5, I felt this was backwards, after all the X5 appears more luxurious and is simply more vehicle for the money. This doesn't change the fact that I strongly prefer a car. I think part of the reason is that people want to be safe, and buying a larger heavier vehicle provides this. |
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Lordie, wow. Anyway, the comfort is that a BMW is so much more than how it looks. It's always been all about the drive; at least for me.
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Lol how can you say that the 1ers sheet metal is boring? How can you have more shape than with flame surfacing?
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I think it will look good overall.
But one thing I really don't like on most of the new BMW models is the gap which separates the bonnet from the kidneys. This huge horizontal gap is drawing too much attention - I think it looks ugly and messes up the front view. IMO they should do it like they did on the E90 or the new X3 (the green lines in the image below). |
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What I see the GT as is a very luxurious car that defines it's own segment. You will never find a better mix of luxury and refinement in this class. We investigate options for every market, and even with the E87 back in 2004 the US rejected the BMW premium Sporthatch. The Coupe and Convertible is more to their liking as Premium Compact models. Which embody the sporting aspects of the 1er and it's link to the legacy of the 2002. The BMW X1 will fullfill the need for the 1er Sporthatch in the US Market.
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[Semi-serious rant] Ding, exactly the reason I will not buy another BMW. Good job, propeller heads, you've officially lost your way. The "Ultimate Driving Machine" should not become the "Ultimate Fake Off Road Vehicle Just Because We Can't Determine That Americans Are Over SUV's (or SAV's)". Put it in your brown eye, I'll buy an Audi A3 or Golf TDI, even though I've already owned and hated Audii before. This constant misstep towards trucks, electric steering, lack of limited slip diffs and under offering of diesels and hatches in the US market is ridiculous. If BMW wants to see how to run an actual car company, simply look at what VW has done with their investments; they've saved Lamborghini, made Bentley mildly interesting, focused Audi and acquired Porsche. The Quandt's have done what? Made a barge of Rolls Royce, failed with Land Rover and lost momentum with Mini. Good work. More sport utes and pussified cars please. Oh, wait, no. F-off. [/Semi-serious rant] |
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Just the hood. The rest of the car is fine, but the hood only has two faintly visible lines that look out of place on a car that has extreme contours everywhere else.
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