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      06-24-2020, 11:42 PM   #1
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2020 U.S. JD Power Vehicle Dependability - BMW Places 8th.

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Behind Lincoln, Genesis, Porsche, and Lexus.




https://www.jdpower.com/business/pre...dability-study
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And Audi is in 15th place behind a KIA.
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Buick and genesis. ???
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Chevy and Ford should be much lower IMO

Ford is just bad, making parts for a model that should be revealed soon and they are still changing the part.

Not talking about testing it at all. Lol
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I bet Tesla is way, way, way down at the bottom
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I'm shocked that BMW is that high. Genesis? Really?
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Not shown is Tesla, which came in with a whopping 250 defects per 100. They aren't shown because they declined to participate in the 15 states where they can legally do so, so their data only reflects 35 particular states. This Forbes articles goes into more details on the how/why...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtem.../#768668a6a67b
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Buick and genesis. ???
I am far more surprised by VW being in the top 5.
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I'm shocked that BMW is that high. Genesis? Really?
About time for BMW to right that ship.
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Not shown is Tesla, which came in with a whopping 250 defects per 100. They aren't shown because they declined to participate in the 15 states where they can legally do so, so their data only reflects 35 particular states. This Forbes articles goes into more details on the how/why...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2020/06/25/jd-power-report-scores-tesla-a-dismal-last-yet-tesla-owners-love-their-cars/#768668a6a67b
Not surprised. These are made under circus tents. Tesla is the manufacturer of random outcomes.
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Very impressed with Genesis lately, especially the new G80, wow! Definitely go for BMW for the thrill of driving. But for luxury, Genesis is hard to beat and for a fraction of the cost
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Ummmmm.... why is it different on JD power's website??? Am I missing something?

*** Nevermind, I see it's different survey.
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Very impressed with Genesis lately, especially the new G80, wow! Definitely go for BMW for the thrill of driving. But for luxury, Genesis is hard to beat and for a fraction of the cost
Some of the new Genesis actually do the sport part well too. I was impressed last time I drove the G70 3.3TT with how good the handling was. Like Car and Driver said its 90% of the 3-Series for 75% of the price. A very good car for those who owned earlier Lexus IS or Infiniti G's since both brands have yet to make a compelling sports sedan recently. Ever since Albert Biernmann (ex-head of M division) joined the Hyundai group, there products have been very good.
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Very impressed with Genesis lately, especially the new G80, wow! Definitely go for BMW for the thrill of driving. But for luxury, Genesis is hard to beat and for a fraction of the cost
Some of the new Genesis actually do the sport part well too. I was impressed last time I drove the G70 3.3TT with how good the handling was. Like Car and Driver said its 90% of the 3-Series for 75% of the price. A very good car for those who owned earlier Lexus IS or Infiniti G's since both brands have yet to make a compelling sports sedan recently. Ever since Albert Biernmann (ex-head of M division) joined the Hyundai group, there products have been very good.
Yes, I stand corrected! I am excited to see what Albert does in the coming years. He was instrument to the modern day M division as we know it. In fact, Moto-Man had a great interview with him a few months back. Very interesting to hear Albert's perspective and even the behind the scene story of how the 1M came to be.

I'm confident Genesis will actually match BMWs driving dynamics and features as long as people can get over the badge. I'm waiting for my M2C to arrive, but wouldn't be bad to have a G80 as a comfortable upscale cruiser in the garage as well.
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Umm yea whatever JD! I bet these results are skewed towards willingness of the auto brand customers to complete the survey. I don't have time for these long ass surveys!
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Lincoln and Buick ahead of BMW. Sad.
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Very impressed with Genesis lately, especially the new G80, wow! Definitely go for BMW for the thrill of driving. But for luxury, Genesis is hard to beat and for a fraction of the cost
^ We almost pulled the trigger on the 3.3 T Sport. Pretty solid car actually. Suspension felt darn good and acceleration was nice. BUT we got the Palisade Limited! Seats are supreme! Softer and more comfy than any other 5 series we had. Impressed so but the only gripe for me is Wind noise and suspension isn't quite up to par. Kinda loud and not nearly as substantial a bmw or range rover naturally. The creature features are endless with tons of tech. Best value by far!
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