02-03-2013, 11:38 AM | #1 |
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F20 on ice
This weekend our F20 was allowed to play with some other cars on a 3 km track on a frozen lake. With studless tires, it was sliding around happily, lap after lap. I was driving very sideways at times, but the car is easy to control, so I got no spin outs, and didn't touch any snowbank. The fake differential brake works very well, and the balance of the car is perfect. I am also very pleased with the steering.
Most of the driving was done in DSC Off mode, which unfortunately forces comfort engine mapping. Very annoying. |
02-03-2013, 02:11 PM | #2 |
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Very cool! Any videos?
Is the helmet required for events like these? It seems a bit over the top. I'd be surprised if it isn't possible to reprogram the car so that you can still be in sport while you have DSC turned off. I mean, there are so many things people have been able to change through programming, so it's plausible that this could also be changed. |
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02-03-2013, 03:05 PM | #3 |
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I have a couple of inboard videos from a mobile phone, but I haven't figured out how to edit and upload it.
Helmets are required. I have spent some weekends like this, and i have seen some cars flip over. It happens. In an F20, I don't think the helmet makes much of a difference, but in the older cars it definitely helps. I haven't seen any successful attempts to fix the drive mode in DSC Off yet. It's the same with the F30 range. |
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02-03-2013, 04:03 PM | #4 |
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I have also had a chance to test the various driving modes a lot in slippery conditions now. The early DSC systems in the E46 did not suit my driving reflexes. When the car stepped sideways, I instinctively corrected with pedals and steering wheel. The DSC also tried to correct with the braks. In total, it was always too much. I could easily lose control of the car after a series of overcorrections. I found it more dangerous to drive around with it enabled than disabled.
In the F20, the DSC is a lot better. It no longer overcorrects. I can still drive faster with DSC Off, since DSC brakes too much (even in Sport+), but I consider it safe. I can leave the systems enabled in public traffic. The Sport+ setups is biased towards oversteer. It is almost impossible to make it understeer in slippery conditions. It does however allow the back end to step out quite a bit, just the way most BMW drivers prefer. |
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02-03-2013, 04:40 PM | #5 |
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02-03-2013, 04:41 PM | #6 |
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Most of you have probably noticed that the F20/21 gathers a lot of dust on the back side. I got a picture of it after driving in snow...
Not much rearward visibilty. |
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02-05-2013, 01:39 AM | #13 |
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Fantastic video....great driving! I would like to drive once on the snow...it must be really fun!!
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02-05-2013, 11:07 AM | #14 |
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It is great fun. I have done it every winter since 1999, one or two weekends per year.
The F20 is very nice for the purpose. Nimble and stable at the same time. |
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02-06-2013, 02:31 PM | #17 |
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It is so much fun to drive on ice! Looks like a perfect day for both you and the car
I drove the most time with DSC off, the Sport+ mode wasn't too much fun to drive in i think, to much braking as you say. Here is a pic of me in my car at Ferdinand Motor's event at Vurrusjøen Iceway: |
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02-06-2013, 03:06 PM | #18 |
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You even have a fairly clean car! :-)
Looks like you installed rear mud flaps as well. Did they fit easily? And I notice you also have that ugly warning sticker on the passenger side sun visor. I am always annoyed by how it looks in pictures. |
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Yes, they fitted very easily. Its a bit loose on the top, but i think that is because i didn't let the glue dry out as much as it should. And i agree, it is a bit annoying with that sticker... I have thought about ordering one from a RHD car actually, because there is no sticker on the drivers site |
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