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      11-03-2019, 04:05 PM   #1
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      11-03-2019, 06:27 PM   #2
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Where oh where has my BMW Corporation gone?
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Where oh where has my BMW Corporation gone?
No idea. My partner's 118d sport looks so much nicer than that mess of grilles and fake vents (and wheel - arch gaps!)...never mind any of the changes under the skin. So disappointing.
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I wish we could get these things in Canada.
it's a shame they dont sell them in america and Canada they're such capable cars
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its was going to happen sooner than later as everyone else is changing their design language
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its was going to happen sooner than later as everyone else is changing their design language
Well, design language is one thing, but architecture and chassis sharing is another. Just 5 years ago, maybe 7 years, BMW was still touting that it was the only remaining uncompromising automobile manufacturer because it did not platform share between brands like other manufacturers do (e.g. Audi). Since then, the Rolls is shared with the 7 and the Mini is the base for the 118i. 50/50 weight balance as an axiom of chassis design has go the way of electronic chassis control.

It's not just that the cars are ugly.
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Well, design language is one thing, but architecture and chassis sharing is another. Just 5 years ago, maybe 7 years, BMW was still touting that it was the only remaining uncompromising automobile manufacturer because it did not platform share between brands like other manufacturers do (e.g. Audi). Since then, the Rolls is shared with the 7 and the Mini is the base for the 118i. 50/50 weight balance as an axiom of chassis design has go the way of electronic chassis control.

It's not just that the cars are ugly.
Not sure why platform sharing would be a bad thing. More sales per platform gives more money for development of that platform. I'm sure the 7 chassis is good enough for a Rolls, and the Mini is surely as good as any other FWD chassis.

Also the F20 shared most of its underpinnings with the F30. RWD yes, but still sharing.
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Not sure why platform sharing would be a bad thing. More sales per platform gives more money for development of that platform. I'm sure the 7 chassis is good enough for a Rolls, and the Mini is surely as good as any other FWD chassis.

Also the F20 shared most of its underpinnings with the F30. RWD yes, but still sharing.
I didn't say platform sharing is bad, BMW did. BMW used to publish magazine and TV adds that said they did not compromise design by platform sharing, which implies other manufacturers that do platform share do compromise design. My point is BMW has with recent models dropped most of it's design ethos (weight balance and no platform sharing), which is what I liked about the company. Component sharing is a different thing, as is inner-model differentiation (i.e. sedan, coupe, wagon).

The auto industry has been platform sharing since almost the beginning. It can be taken too far though. I'll put forth that GM ruined Cadillac's reputation by thin-veiled platform sharing with Chevrolet back in the 1980's. I think VW's MBQ architecture is a bit thin as well. VW makes something like 30 car models off the same platform.

And no way the 7-series is good enough for the base of a Rolls Royce. Not the real Rolls Royces from the original company.
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is manual still a thing? I am impressed bmw
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is manual still a thing? I am impressed bmw
thankfully yeah, manual ftw
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