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      07-21-2017, 09:50 AM   #23
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Well instead of regurgitating "my take" which isnt my take but the testimony of surviving German Nazis you know the ones they didnt hang? the ones who escaped to Spain/Argentina? How about you do alil typing and see for yourself
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      07-22-2017, 12:48 AM   #24
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Saw it tonight was good but not as good as was hoping. Not much character development.
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Saw it tonight was good but not as good as was hoping. Not much character development.
How was the sound of the Spitfires ?
I heard it was awesome..
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Some of those noises were pretty sweet yes
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Some of those noises were pretty sweet yes
Can't wait to hear the Spitfires in my home cinema..
I'm looking for a blu-ray download .
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I was expecting a whole lot more from this movie.
Its not "Saving Private Ryan" thats for sure .....
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I was expecting a whole lot more from this movie.
Its not "Saving Private Ryan" thats for sure .....
Yeah kinda my feeling no character development
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Well instead of regurgitating "my take" which isnt my take but the testimony of surviving German Nazis you know the ones they didnt hang? the ones who escaped to Spain/Argentina? How about you do alil typing and see for yourself
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Can you suggest some quality reference? Thx
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Can you suggest some quality reference? Thx
You can search up investigative historians versions of what happened in WWII there arent many cause most people are satisfied spoonfed popularist history (propoganda) but there are alternate accounts and often based on investigative historians who need to justify their views esp since they run contrary to the "official" take.
DeGrelle (actually a Belgian one of many multinationals in the Waffen SS) is one of the only vocal surviving generals having escaped to and was protected by Spain having written many books on the subject from the German take during WWII. His version on Dunkirk was confirmed by others like GŁnther Blumentritt (regular army not SS) who was generally quite suppressed after the war. Remember most people dont write books about their experiences (esp if you are hiding for dear life in SAmerica or fearing for any attention from the holocaust prosecution gangs) and history is dying all around us as the generation from WWII is nearly gone all we have now are what I call propoganda. I've spoken to many folks the generation before mine who lived through the great depression and WWII and the tales and facts they tell.. unfortunately most of them are gone by now as well.
Remember dont just blindly believe what one group of people tell you.. listen to them all and talk to people who actually partook and then decide for yourself what makes sense.. you'll sift thru more BS that way.. and this world is all BS and full of lies..humans are very good at lies.
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You can search up investigative historians versions of what happened in WWII there arent many cause most people are satisfied spoonfed popularist history (propoganda) but there are alternate accounts and often based on investigative historians who need to justify their views esp since they run contrary to the "official" take.
DeGrelle (actually a Belgian one of many multinationals in the Waffen SS) is one of the only vocal surviving generals having escaped to and was protected by Spain having written many books on the subject from the German take during WWII. His version on Dunkirk was confirmed by others like GŁnther Blumentritt (regular army not SS) who was generally quite suppressed after the war. Remember most people dont write books about their experiences (esp if you are hiding for dear life in SAmerica or fearing for any attention from the holocaust prosecution gangs) and history is dying all around us as the generation from WWII is nearly gone all we have now are what I call propoganda. I've spoken to many folks the generation before mine who lived through the great depression and WWII and the tales and facts they tell.. unfortunately most of them are gone by now as well.
Remember dont just blindly believe what one group of people tell you.. listen to them all and talk to people who actually partook and then decide for yourself what makes sense.. you'll sift thru more BS that way.. and this world is all BS and full of lies..humans are very good at lies.
Thanks. I'm not a sheep - I'm a wolf. I don't blindly follow anyone. I appreciate the references.
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Thanks. I'm not a sheep - I'm a wolf. I don't blindly follow anyone. I appreciate the references.
I knew that.. by the fact you asked the questions
BTW Degrelle survived over 5 kidnapping attempts in Spain.. talk about a man on the run

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Thanks. I'm not a sheep - I'm a wolf. I don't blindly follow anyone. I appreciate the references.
Should try and be the sheepdog, wolves are the evil in the world. Capacity for violence and empathy for fellow man. Dave grossman.
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Went to theater last week for this movie . . . .
very little of the whole story, drawn out scenes, short on dialog,
some good snipet story scenes in air or water. And a piston / prop
fighter aircraft can't dead stick for near half hour.
it was okay.

And from what i have read, the German army at that time just wanted
the alleged Allied forces "out". Thus giving them time to finish the take
over and bolster the coastal defenses.
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Should try and be the sheepdog, wolves are the evil in the world. Capacity for violence and empathy for fellow man. Dave grossman.
No thanks.
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Great movie. Minimalist and factual. It doesn't need huge character development because everyone in the UK already knows the story of Dunkirk. It's so famous in the UK it's part of our everyday language. Moved me to tears at the end when the lads read out Churchills words in the newspaper. One of the best war films ever for me.
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Gave it another watch tonight and have to say I like it much more than initially thought. The suspense of it and the futility of the men trying to get from the beach is good. Still has some flaws but overall a good one.
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