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      05-07-2022, 10:02 AM   #45
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I have car play in my '21, and have never used it. It's annoying. You have to switch from it back to the the original iDrive set up to access car settings, ect.

Also, BMW maps are so more intuitive with car than Apple Maps.
Yeah and soon all settings will be in the menu via touch screen because buttons are old tech.
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      05-07-2022, 10:13 AM   #46
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Without the wireless chip, Wireless Android Auto is a no go. We're back to the stone age where people connected wires for AA.
Agreed and what is confusing is that both AA and CarPlay wireless use a combo of Bluetooth and WiFi. Bluetooth has specific profiles but WiFi outside of the frequency is universal and the device just needs to support the frequency to connect. At least in the case of AA it requires a 5GHz frequency. Not sure how a software update is going to enable that if the chip doesn't support it in the first place.
If I had to wager a guess; I'd say that they aren't "wireless". The software update will convert it to wired CarPlay from a specific USB port (like the center console one or the cup holder one).
Right now bmw is setup for wireless. I'm sure the software will be wired and only one specific outlet for input.
Thus, won't need "chips" for wireless per se. that's my guess.

It's like the touchscreen that needed software to work without touch.
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      05-07-2022, 10:31 AM   #47
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I don't understand why this is an issue at all?
Processor switch and need to port the code over or something similar.

Not enough time to do the port and QA the code. Would people rather wait for the port to get the car?

I'm okay with the tradeoff 8fnI get my car sooner.
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Whenever all this does end, or something new normalizes, the market for these stripped down cars is going to be weird. They'll continue to circulate and people will buy them, but I have to think their values will be lower relative to the way you'd normally expect them to depreciate. And that's even crazier when you consider how much they're getting for them when sold as new.
I just bought a x4 with premium package. If any options are missing I will not take the car. Since I don't lease and purchase outright the depreciated value when I want to sell it will be a killer.
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      05-07-2022, 10:45 AM   #49
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Totally agree with this. I've seen it everywhere. So many businesses continue to blame Covid for all manner of problems. It's been a few years now; one would think they could adapt. There is more to this than "chip shortage" garbage, but there is nothing I can prove.

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I sincerely hope nobody rewards BMW by paying ludicrous prices for crippled vehicles. Also got a chuckle at Mini blaming the chip shortage for dropping manual transmissions. COVID is the universal excuse for crap customer service and failure to plan adequately.

I wonder how long the chip shortage needs to go on (another 2 years? More?) before we finally figure out there is plenty of market availability here in North America and finally use some subsidies to kick start those factories here.
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      05-07-2022, 11:34 AM   #50
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I have car play in my '21, and have never used it. It's annoying. You have to switch from it back to the the original iDrive set up to access car settings, ect.

Also, BMW maps are so more intuitive with car than Apple Maps.
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I have car play in my '21, and have never used it. It's annoying. You have to switch from it back to the the original iDrive set up to access car settings, ect.

Also, BMW maps are so more intuitive with car than Apple Maps.
I agree that BMW has better maps and interface. I only use CarPlay for Waze since police locations are marked by users (in US). lol.
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      05-07-2022, 11:43 AM   #51
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Can't wait till I have CarPlay back on my '22 F40. I picked it up last week. I absolutely love this car.. but after previously having three cars with CarPlay I really miss it in my new BMW.

I really hope they can just push it OTA instead of going to the dealer for an ISTA update. I bought the High Beam Assist earlier this week from the Connected Drive Store and that installed remotely perfectly.
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      05-07-2022, 12:15 PM   #52
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Is bmw Navi good in terms of routes/ traffic etc. ? I always go with google maps as my go to choice for accuracy but it doesn't show up in the HUD. Apple Maps shows turn by turn in HUD so that is my go to option if I have unique destination I've never been to. But I never really use the bmw navi. Is it good ?
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      05-07-2022, 12:15 PM   #53
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Don't know about you guys but I don't use carplay. I actually quite hate it. The iDrive 7 connection is superior to me
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I mostly hate the shite music quality when playing via CarPlay Spotify. Thankfully, I've found a way to have both Waze in carplay and native iDrive Spotify work in unison.
I have been trying to figure out how to make that happen? I want to use the idrive Spotify but have Waze up for alerts. Do you mind posting how you are doing that?
It took me a while to figure it out.

Delete Spotify from CarPlay apps in your iPhone settings and then it won't interfere with iDrive Spotify. Settings General CarPlay Choose BMW connection and then Customise.
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      05-07-2022, 12:30 PM   #55
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Half the time my car play works and half not. It's annoying and dealer cannot get to the bottom of it.
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      05-07-2022, 12:33 PM   #56
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as long as people keep buying they will get away with stuff like this lol
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Don't know about you guys but I don't use carplay. I actually quite hate it. The iDrive 7 connection is superior to me
I use it for podcasts (Overcast). And I use Apple Music instead of Spotify.
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      05-07-2022, 01:05 PM   #58
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Is bmw Navi good in terms of routes/ traffic etc. ? I always go with google maps as my go to choice for accuracy but it doesn't show up in the HUD. Apple Maps shows turn by turn in HUD so that is my go to option if I have unique destination I've never been to. But I never really use the bmw navi. Is it good ?
I always use the BMW navigation. It works great and I get over the air map upgrades.
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      05-07-2022, 01:15 PM   #59
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Android Auto without touchscreen is uselsss anyway.
Touchscreen is there. Touch functionality on the iDrive knob is gone.
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Is bmw Navi good in terms of routes/ traffic etc. ? I always go with google maps as my go to choice for accuracy but it doesn't show up in the HUD. Apple Maps shows turn by turn in HUD so that is my go to option if I have unique destination I've never been to. But I never really use the bmw navi. Is it good ?
I always use the BMW navigation. It works great and I get over the air map upgrades.
Ok I'll give it a shot
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      05-07-2022, 02:37 PM   #61
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      05-07-2022, 05:04 PM   #62
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They did. In Switzerland for example, the contract states that both delivery and wait times are subject to change, as well as the equipment of the car.

So if they run out of Laser lights and you get the adaptive LEDs instead, you have no legal recourse and you're stuck with the car.
And they will give a small pittance of credit back.. while they retain their margins.
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      05-07-2022, 06:03 PM   #63
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Half the time my car play works and half not. It's annoying and dealer cannot get to the bottom of it.
Istep update helped a lot with my vehicle. Free update if you say you're having CarPlay connectivity issues
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One thing I loved about CarPlay on ID6 was that the voice button on the steering wheel activated Siri, even while ACP was just running in the background, which made for example searching a destination incredibly quick and easy. Once the destination popped up on screen, scroll down a couple clicks, select "Send to BMW Nav" and it would flip over to the car's native navigation. Always preferred this as directions would then be on the HUD. Haven't used this in ID7 yet but hoping that's still how it works when my new car arrives. Voice to text also very useful
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The Ultimate Driving Machine has been crippled by the Ultimate Chip Shortage.

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If I'm assured I can I can get CarPlay with an update, I'm OK otherwise it's a deal killer for me. I agree that BMW map system is better, but I really like the CarPlay interface otherwise.
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