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It does with BSG, not with ISG.
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Perhaps the next generation of gas/diesel models will switch to an integrated system. However, it would seem that the window is closing. We already know much of the G70 model lineup, and it is very PHEV and BEV heavy. Given that focus, is it worth investing more in the MHEV engines at this point? The lifespan could be limited since it is entirely conceivable that, starting with the following generation at the end of this decade, every model in the entire BMW lineup will be PHEV or BEV. I think the direction they choose with the B48, since it has not yet received a 48V system, could be a good indicator of where they will go. Alternately, the S58 that you mentioned and the upcoming new S68 are also slated for 48V, so those present another possibility to begin the switch to ISG. But for right now, I don't think we can call this a slam dunk. |
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However, there is indeed a small weight penalty attributed to the additional hardware, and I think that auto start/stop can no longer be switched off (but that could theoretically change for M models). |
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It's highly unlikely BMW are going to leave Europe without an M2 to buy for the best part of 2.5 yrs. The new 2 series is due out sometime this year, so expect M2 within 6 months of that.
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M cars routinely come out several years after a new model is released. I'll let you confirm that on your own. A good place to start would be the F22 and F87 release dates. Quote:
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1) Brake energy recycled much faster 2) All engine accessories to be electric driven, way more reliability and efficiency (Ask E92 M3 owner how they gets an instant 20-30whp by just using a smaller pulley) 3) ISG adds noticeable and instant torque at low down where the S58 is lacking the most. 4) ISG can even power the supercharging system (MB I6 EQ boost). I consider all of above very traditional ICE techs.
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Reviving this thread....
So given that now it is Aug 2022, has the production of G80 M3 LCI started? |
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yup, it started up last month.
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