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      08-09-2019, 02:05 PM   #1
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Arrow The very first Porsche - the Type 64

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PS: I believe this car is owned by the Prototyp Museum(Otto Mathe) in Hamburg, Germany.

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The type 64 goes across the blocks Saturday, August 17th, at RM Sotheby's Monterey...auction estimate: $20 million.
http://catalogue.rmsothebys.com/books/zapo/#p=15
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Porsche wanted a Typ 64 so bad... they made one themselves!! One is on display at the Porsche Museum in Zuffenhausen. The car isn't finished but you can see the car's "bones".


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The Typ. 64 was built to race in the Berlin to Rome race in the fall of 1939. However the invasion of Poland squashed those plans. And the out break of WWII.

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If you google something like Nazi world speed record cars itís interesting the body styling.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopni...1538151482/amp
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I started this thread back in May when the car first surfaced that it was going to auction....what a beauty.

https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1613843
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I started this thread back in May when the car first surfaced that it was going to auction....what a beauty.

https://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1613843
The link in your post has FANTASTIC pictures.
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Amazing car, looks like an alien space craft
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Amazing car, looks like an alien space craft
Yup, clearly a Porsche!
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They had a black one at the Petersen Museum Porsche exhibit, and it looked like a UFO. It was my wifeís favorite car there.

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They had a black one at the Petersen Museum Porsche exhibit, and it looked like a UFO. It was my wife’s favorite car there.


Yeah... the black car is from the Prototyp Museum in Hamburg. I think it was on loan to the Peterson Museum for their "Porsche Effect" exhibit last fall. I took these photos back in January 2017 when I visited the Prototyp Museum(in Hamburg) to see a special exhibit on BMW ArtCars. It was amazing!!


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BMW ArtCars on display at the Prototyp Museum. The ArtCar display was only for a few months. Now the cars are back at BMW Classic.
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We show you BMW ArtCars seen in Hamburg, Germany...
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1353261



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Those are great pics !
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Those are great pics !
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The auction evidently didn't go well. Not only did it not sell, this Bloomberg article called the event "a joke", "a debacle", "an auction blunder".
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uction-blunder
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The auction evidently didn't go well. Not only did it not sell, this Bloomberg article called the event "a joke", "a debacle", "an auction blunder".
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uction-blunder
That's a shame, I think this is a very special car historically. I understand why some might say it's not a true Porsche, but it clearly has an a place in Automotive History and in the development of the Porsche brand. The fact that Porsche has a mock up of it at their museum reinforces that point.

I think Porsche should attempt to acquire it privately and put it where it belongs.

Sotheby's I think has a problem now. This is the kind of screw up that can do them some real damage.
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That's a shame, I think this is a very special car historically. I understand why some might say it's not a true Porsche, but it clearly has an a place in Automotive History and in the development of the Porsche brand. The fact that Porsche has a mock up of it at their museum reinforces that point.

I think Porsche should attempt to acquire it privately and put it where it belongs.

Sotheby's I think has a problem now. This is the kind of screw up that can do them some real damage.
From what I understand, I believe Porsche isn't interested in the car, due to questionable provenance.
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From what I understand, I believe Porsche isn't interested in the car, due to questionable provenance.
Very interesting, Iíll google this, but do u have any additional info.
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Very interesting, Iíll google this, but do u have any additional info.
Iíve just seen a lot of guys mention it in other forums.
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From what I understand, I believe Porsche isn't interested in the car, due to questionable provenance.
I guess Post #4 shows there must be some interest.
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Very interesting, Iíll google this, but do u have any additional info.
So Iíve done some more reading, and this #3 car was apparently built from #1ís chassis and #2ís engine. It was sold to a race driver who owned it for decades and converted it to right hand drive and wrecked/rebuilt it several times, painted it turquoise, and added block PORSCHE lettering to the nose. Itís since been converted back to LHD and painted silver, apparently among other things.

I donít know, it still seems like Porsche would want it, despite the above. Hmmm...
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So Iíve done some more reading, and this #3 car was apparently built from #1ís chassis and #2ís engine. It was sold to a race driver who owned it for decades and converted it to right hand drive and wrecked/rebuilt it several times, painted it turquoise, and added block PORSCHE lettering to the nose. Itís since been converted back to LHD and painted silver, apparently among other things.

I donít know, it still seems like Porsche would want it, despite the above. Hmmm...
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