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      05-09-2021, 01:52 PM   #2949
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I understand pulling someone over for a missing plate, and an obviously unsafe vehicle condition, and really unsafe driving (weaving in and out, excessive speed differential, etc). But with technology today everything else can be an email or mail notification or citation.

Sometimes it feels like the traffic police are an HOA on wheels.
You assume everyone has email, or that the police will have your email. The fact is that many equipment violations lead the police to other more serious offences and investigations. Also, the operator may not be the owner and often times the offence goes to the driver not just the owner. For example, we had many offences that could go to both. Operate unsafe vehicle and Permit the operation of an unsafe vehicle.

It's clear that you don't like the intrusion or inconvenience of being stopped and there is a solution really. Don't commit any violations.
You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Imagine if the registered owner were responsible for every citation issued regarding the vehicle. What he suggested would put the R/O at fault probably 100% of the time. That would piss a lot of people off.
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You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Imagine if the registered owner were responsible for every citation issued regarding the vehicle. What he suggested would put the R/O at fault probably 100% of the time. That would piss a lot of people off.
Isn't this what happens with all camera tickets? Speeding, stop lights....
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You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Imagine if the registered owner were responsible for every citation issued regarding the vehicle. What he suggested would put the R/O at fault probably 100% of the time. That would piss a lot of people off.
Isn't this what happens with all camera tickets?
When my son was about 17 (33 now), he was caught going through an intersection just as the light turned red. A photo was taken and it was sent to my wife because she co-signed for his car, even though the pic was obviously of a male. lol
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You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Imagine if the registered owner were responsible for every citation issued regarding the vehicle. What he suggested would put the R/O at fault probably 100% of the time. That would piss a lot of people off.
Isn't this what happens with all camera tickets? Speeding, stop lights....
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You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Imagine if the registered owner were responsible for every citation issued regarding the vehicle. What he suggested would put the R/O at fault probably 100% of the time. That would piss a lot of people off.
Isn't this what happens with all camera tickets?
When my son was about 17 (33 now), he was caught going through an intersection just as the light turned red. A photo was taken and it was sent to my wife because she co-signed for his car, even though the pic was obviously of a male. lol
All she had to do was show the court she wasn't driving and they would've happily passed that fine over to the son.
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You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Imagine if the registered owner were responsible for every citation issued regarding the vehicle. What he suggested would put the R/O at fault probably 100% of the time. That would piss a lot of people off.
Isn't this what happens with all camera tickets? Speeding, stop lights....
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You took the word(s) right out of my mouth. Imagine if the registered owner were responsible for every citation issued regarding the vehicle. What he suggested would put the R/O at fault probably 100% of the time. That would piss a lot of people off.
Isn't this what happens with all camera tickets?
When my son was about 17 (33 now), he was caught going through an intersection just as the light turned red. A photo was taken and it was sent to my wife because she co-signed for his car, even though the pic was obviously of a male. lol
All she had to do was show the court she wasn't driving and they would've happily passed that fine over to the son.
She didn't want the ticket to affect his insurance.
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All she had to do was show the court she wasn't driving and they would've happily passed that fine over to the son.
In NYC they take a photo of your plate, and the owner is liable for a 'reduced' fine. But the owner is liable.
How else is it done?
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All she had to do was show the court she wasn't driving and they would've happily passed that fine over to the son.
In NYC they take a photo of your plate, and the owner is liable for a 'reduced' fine. But the owner is liable.
How else is it done?
If the registered owner can prove they weren't driving at the time of the infraction, they aren't liable for the point. We don't really use red light cameras much in California anymore though.
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If the registered owner can prove they weren't driving at the time of the infraction, they aren't liable for the point. We don't really use red light cameras much in California anymore though.
I didn't think they were used at all out here anymore. They are still used in California at some locations?
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If the registered owner can prove they weren't driving at the time of the infraction, they aren't liable for the point. We don't really use red light cameras much in California anymore though.
I didn't think they were used at all out here anymore. They are still used in California at some locations?
I've seen them in The Valley recently, but they could be there as a deterrent to make people think they'll be cited should they run the light. I know for sure the flashing mechanism was still active.
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Looks as if they got it right this time. Who in their right mind would do this to their cars?
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Look as if they got it right this time. Who in their right mind would do this to their cars?
People who use correct grammar in their sentences by accident more often than not.
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My son also got a picture, addressed to me. Since I have no hair, they said I had to identify who I allowed to use my car
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My son also got a picture, addressed to me. Since I have no hair, they said I had to identify who I allowed to use my car
So, since your avatar has mucho hair, should we assume it is not a likeness of you? lol
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So, since your avatar has mucho hair, should we assume it is not a likeness of you? lol
Say it isn't so.
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