[PittsDriver]

Originally Posted by chassis

PittsDriver

This is fear of higher tax rates. It’s speculation.

Fair enough - those images in the crystal ball are pretty fuzzy but it sure seems like there's a vector toward taxing the snot out of people making money to pay for all the free stuff. Fear you say? The thing I fear is the tax on people that own stuff (asset taxes). Yeah, that one is pure speculation but they sure talk about it a lot. You just can't keep giving away free money without paying the consequences. Like Margaret Thatcher once said, sooner or later you run out of other people's money.

[iamwingman]

I just picked a little bit of lucid. In 20 years it’ll be worth a ton or nothing. Maybe it’ll be one that survives. 👍👍

[mdf]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

Real estate etfs? If so which?

For what it's worth: 20 years ago, my mother hired an investment management firm to manage her retirement savings. After fees, the firm managed her account to a return slightly beating the S&P 500. The two real estate ETFs in her portfolio are DFREX and IYR. I have stayed away from REITs and real estate but after reviewing her portfolio have been giving them another look.

[Humdizzle]

everyone surviving ? rough week. hopefully next week there will be some green.

[XKxRome0ox]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

everyone surviving ? rough week. hopefully next week there will be some green.

i died.

hopefully i'll come back to life next week

[JP10]

Yeah I'm in the trash can, said f*ck it and just bought more. Idk 🤷*♂️

[srybicki]

TWTR Tender coming soon easy money...

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[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

everyone surviving ? rough week. hopefully next week there will be some green.

Typical Friday overreaction. It will shoot back up quite a bit but it's going to be like this for a while. Not until the Ukraine War is over and China drops their Zero Covid approach will things get more rosey.

[Chick Webb]

Don't fight the fed, guys. They have been increasingly clear that they are going to get inflation under control, and to do that they have to have positive real interest rates. With inflation (maybe peaking but no doubt) running high the rest of the year that means even the 2.5% they're talking about hiking to by December will be no where near what's needed.

As long as this continues there will be lower highs and lower lows. I resist the temptation to buy the dips, sell the pops if I have profits, and stash the cash. I've been 30+% cash since November and would be higher but for the tax consequences of selling more.

I'm waiting for the big flush. It hasn't happened yet. Watch the "safe" mega caps like AAPL, etc. When you see them going down the same amount as the broader market, that's a sign of capitulation. After that, it'll be safe for me to start back in. Slowly. In the meantime, I buy puts on big positions to protect against the downside. I buy puts on the overall market (SPY, QQQ) for general protection.

As an example, as of yesterday morning I had substantial positions in June SPY $420 puts and May VIX $25 calls in my trading account. (Remember, put options on equities are a bet they'll go down, calls are a bet they'll go up.) Both were purchased during the recent run-up last month - if I recall at the time SPY was at $440 and the VIX was at $20 - so they were reasonably cheap. Thanks to that insurance I was actually up about 1/2 a percent overall yesterday, despite most of my positions taking a shellacking.

I did sell the VIX calls when it hit $28, which was my pre-decided strike price, for a decent 40% profit. I kept the SPY puts because I have a strike of $410 on those (though it could easily hit $400). But that position was up 65% yesterday. Saved my bacon. The proceeds from the VIX sale will either go toward more options on those or, if it takes a dump after earnings this week, more AMZN.

Note that none of the above should be construed as investment advice. I'm an amateur like the rest of you. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.

[chassis]

I’m heavy cash and have been rebalancing into logistics and energy. Looking at commodities, probably some room left there.

[antzcrashing]

Added some energy via XLE and caved to the dips in netflix and facebook. Nearly 10 percent in cash

[jsf721]

Brutal couple of days last week. It would be a major set back if I sold anything. I’ve see this as a young person in 1987 , 2008 aNd 2011. I’m staying and waiting. Luckily I’ve enough cash on the sidelines to wait it out. It’s still now fun. I’ve been in the market for a long time and mentally once the portfolio hit a new high, it’s my $. Hate to see it drop forget about plummet.

We will be back hold on all.

[antzcrashing]

Amazing that the fed can raise interest rates 25 basis points, and just threaten to tighten its balance sheet and raise rates and the market goes to shambles. I guess all of last year was just fake.

Market is selling off on earnings any company it doesn't think is favorable in this climate, which is most

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

Amazing that the fed can raise interest rates 25 basis points, and just threaten to tighten its balance sheet and raise rates and the market goes to shambles. I guess all of last year was just fake.

Market is selling off on earnings any company it doesn't think is favorable in this climate, which is most

I’m wondering at which point it would be good to jump in, or just average down. The other thought is to hoard cash and see what happens with the market.

[chassis]

Hoard

[Humdizzle]

i'm hoarding. but i have friends who are still buying.

if you're not going to pull money out for another X number of years it may not be a bad time to stack up while everything is on sale. just gotta be comfortable with seeing red.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

cant wait till it all goes low, then ill buy

[XKxRome0ox]

How low is low enough for you?

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

How low is low enough for you?

tbh i live WAY below my means. so i can just hoard and hoard cash, and invest when a significant crash/recession happens. and put all that money away and never touch it since i live way below my means. but thats a tough question for anyone. i have the luxary of time.

[Tyga11]

I'm personally desensitized to the market after 2020 with COVID when everything was going down 3% everyday for a month. This is nothing. I actually waited in line at an ATM because I thought I would need cash once we went into lockdown lol.

I've maintained the course and have been invested 100% since. I'm down 20% YTD and it sucks but it is what it is and I'm not retiring for another 40+ years anyways.

[Chick Webb]

AAPL down what, 2.5% today while the Nasdaq dropped 3.5%? And they're down to a 25 forward P/E, which is not much of a premium compared to where it's been. If they don't guide a lot lower Thursday, we could be close to a bottom. A very choppy, months-long bottom, I suspect. But a bottom, nonetheless. Maybe.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Tyga11

I'm personally desensitized to the market after 2020 with COVID when everything was going down 3% everyday for a month. This is nothing. I actually waited in line at an ATM because I thought I would need cash once we went into lockdown lol.

I've maintained the course and have been invested 100% since. I'm down 20% YTD and it sucks but it is what it is and I'm not retiring for another 40+ years anyways.

Same here. I was freaked out in spring 2020 but held the line. I was glad I did. Folks I know who bailed got screwed later. For now I just look at the 3 and 5 year return charts and hope that trend continues. I have a smallish 403b I can tap into for another 3 years before I have to touch my primary retirement account. Hopefully the markets get back on track well before then.