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      01-06-2013, 04:58 AM   #133
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Blimey so the majority really really dont like. Wonder if BMW actually care or of reading this will take any feedback???
Which majority ?
Ask M135i owners (not just everyone) if they are happy with the sound from their car, with active sound included. I bet more than half will give it thumbs up.
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      01-06-2013, 05:39 AM   #134
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OK, am I really reading about an amplified car sound that sounds like a high performance car but actually performs the same? WTF is going on, have BMW Fans really become little bitches....I am ashamed and would be more ashamed if the Audi/porsche and even ricers got wind of this bullshit...

Here we go again with the blow off valves and spoilers or even that cyclonic thingy that connected to the intake .....debate ably pointless conversions that get small gains if any.

Here you go, maybe that sounds amp would make this car faster

Haha, fantastic video!
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      01-06-2013, 05:43 AM   #135
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All reviews I have seen of the car have praised the sound, so my verdict is that BMW has done it right.

I wonder if some of the comments from US forum users would be less negative if they could actually buy these cars.
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      01-06-2013, 07:59 AM   #136
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All reviews I have seen of the car have praised the sound, so my verdict is that BMW has done it right.

I wonder if some of the comments from US forum users would be less negative if they could actually buy these cars.
Interesting point. BMW NA, what say you?
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      01-06-2013, 09:44 AM   #137
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Interesting point. BMW NA, what say you?
Exactly. How about we worry about getting good vehicles sold stateside before bitching about the sound they make/don't make?
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      01-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #138
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BMW is full of shit blaming the turbo. If they just made a proper exhaust for the car it would sound fine. I had to upgrade my previous 335 N54 to a bastuck to get it to sound good even with the windows UP!

This is lame.
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      01-06-2013, 11:02 AM   #139
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BMW is full of shit blaming the turbo. If they just made a proper exhaust for the car it would sound fine. I had to upgrade my previous 335 N54 to a bastuck to get it to sound good even with the windows UP!

This is lame.
But if BMW made the car like that, it would be too loud for most buyers (and their neighbours). Modern cars have to be rather silent on the outside.
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      01-06-2013, 11:53 AM   #140
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From the videos i have to say it sounds awesome...what happens if you turn off the stereo?

Next thing you know some VW guy is going to install this and really pimp his ride....will this synthesizer plug into another car or an older 135's stereo?
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      01-06-2013, 01:07 PM   #141
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A driver knows his engine, feels his rpm's..

A poser is someone who is in it for their ego, & will accept fake things to sooth it.
When you drive at the limit with a helmet on, it is difficult to know the RPM if it is not loud enough. You certainly don't want to start looking at the instrument panel. You can't feel the RPM from a straight six. Maybe from an unbalanced four.
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      01-06-2013, 01:10 PM   #142
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From the videos i have to say it sounds awesome...what happens if you turn off the stereo?

Next thing you know some VW guy is going to install this and really pimp his ride....will this synthesizer plug into another car or an older 135's stereo?
VW guys had it first.

Although it's a simple implementation.

It's not a straight forward install, the symposer takes data from the can bus and works out what to play depending on rpm, throttle position, engine load and vehicle speed.

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      01-06-2013, 01:10 PM   #143
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You know this will really suck if your speakers are blown out. It will just be constant rattling.

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      01-06-2013, 05:01 PM   #144
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I just wish they engineered some engine/exhaust note into the 125i. I will still buy one, but this seems like a glaring omission.
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      01-06-2013, 05:13 PM   #145
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finally figure out why m135i sounds so much better than my 135i. Anyways is there a way to plug it into a us spec 135i coupe LOL.
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      01-06-2013, 06:30 PM   #146
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I'm going to ask local bmw dealer if this unit can be retro fitted. Would make me the happiest driver on earth
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      01-06-2013, 06:50 PM   #147
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Without meaning to offend anyone am I the only person here who thinks it's actually quite sad?

Why are they trying to make a car sound like something it isn't? As long as it sounds epic with the windows down then I'm happy - Even the Mini Cooper I used to drive sounded good with the windows down and full throttle. I'm test driving the M135i this week so I'm going to keep an open ear for this gizmo and pay careful attention to how the car sounds.
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      01-07-2013, 12:03 AM   #148
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Without meaning to offend anyone am I the only person here who thinks it's actually quite sad?

Why are they trying to make a car sound like something it isn't? As long as it sounds epic with the windows down then I'm happy - Even the Mini Cooper I used to drive sounded good with the windows down and full throttle. I'm test driving the M135i this week so I'm going to keep an open ear for this gizmo and pay careful attention to how the car sounds.
No, it's quite sad.
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      01-07-2013, 01:01 AM   #149
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Without meaning to offend anyone am I the only person here who thinks it's actually quite sad?

Why are they trying to make a car sound like something it isn't? As long as it sounds epic with the windows down then I'm happy - Even the Mini Cooper I used to drive sounded good with the windows down and full throttle. I'm test driving the M135i this week so I'm going to keep an open ear for this gizmo and pay careful attention to how the car sounds.
A tip. Use the minimum throttle while in 3-4 gear. You will hear a distant M-sporty roar where no agressive sound should be whatsoever. The same happens in m5.
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      01-07-2013, 09:10 AM   #150
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If stricter regulations are the reason newer cars are quieter, why then are Lamborghini and Ferrari still allowed to be so loud?
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      01-07-2013, 10:01 AM   #151
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Whilst I like the sound itself, the idea of a digitally generated noise makes me feel a little dirty - I would prefer that they spent the money on a sound cancelling setup to reduce the noise from the runflats instead.

I seem to recall that Jag implemented this some years ago.
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      01-07-2013, 11:35 AM   #152
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All reviews I have seen of the car have praised the sound, so my verdict is that BMW has done it right.

I wonder if some of the comments from US forum users would be less negative if they could actually buy these cars.
Yes, the sound has been praised in the reviews, but how many of the reviewers knew it was being generated by a synthesizer? Would they still praise it if they knew much of the sound was emanating from the speakers instead of directly from the engine? I suspect that praise wouldn't be as high as it has been.
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Yes, the sound has been praised in the reviews, but how many of the reviewers knew it was being generated by a synthesizer? Would they still praise it if they knew much of the sound was emanating from the speakers instead of directly from the engine? I suspect that praise wouldn't be as high as it has been.
I suppose that tells you how good the system is.

If professional reviewers thought it sounded great and couldn't tell it was coming from the speakers then the design tell have done a good job.

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      01-07-2013, 02:07 PM   #154
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I suppose that tells you how good the system is.

If professional reviewers thought it sounded great and couldn't tell it was coming from the speakers then the design tell have done a good job.

Cheers
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yes - your spot on Lee. Its a totally convincing system....
And lets not forget, this is adding to the sound, not making it totally.
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