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      12-11-2019, 10:47 AM   #23
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Hopefully around the same time as Apple added support for HUD in iOS 13.
Yeah, which I have, and iDrive 7.0, and those donít work.
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Yeah, which I have, and iDrive 7.0, and those donít work.
Apple added support but BMW has to enable the feature on their side...
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      12-11-2019, 10:52 AM   #26
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Yeah, which I have, and iDrive 7.0, and those donít work.
Yeah, it doesn't support it today. I'm hoping that it will be supported alongside whatever update is done to add AA support. But that may be wishful thinking we shall see.
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The biggest problem with any wireless connection is it ain't stable as wired connection, for me using Bluetooth/car play vs using the USB port, there is a significant drop to audio quality when listening to music from sources like spotify or google music.
Couldn't agree more - the idea of the wireless CarPlay (at least thus far in my experience) - is better than the reality. About once a month in my X5M I have to completely remove my phone from the pairing and re-do the entire process because the car "forgets" the CarPlay feature (while keeping other bluetooth functions in tact).

Hopefully BMW has figured this out for MY2020 cars and beyond?
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Couldn't agree more - the idea of the wireless CarPlay (at least thus far in my experience) - is better than the reality. About once a month in my X5M I have to completely remove my phone from the pairing and re-do the entire process because the car "forgets" the CarPlay feature (while keeping other bluetooth functions in tact).

Hopefully BMW has figured this out for MY2020 cars and beyond?
I've been using wireless CarPlay on my 2020 M4 and it's been pretty reliable in terms of connection. My only issue is that it doesn't see the next/previous tracks in the HUD but that's a minor complaint!
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BMW to offer wireless integration from mid 2020.

Munich, Germany- December 11, 2019... The BMW Group is extending the reach of seamless connectivity in its vehicles with the introduction of Android Auto ™ starting in mid 2020. Android Auto, the latest digital and user centric service addition to BMW will allow customers to connect their Android smartphones wirelessly with their vehicle and, in doing so , enjoy access to useful informati on like suggested destinations and upcoming appointments just when it is needed.

Plug & play out, wireless in
Android Auto is a simpler, safer way to use the smartphone in BMW vehicles , making it easy to access music, media and messaging apps. The wireless connection makes the process of linking up an Android smartphone to a BMW extremely user friendly with a simplified interface Added to which, Android Auto is integrated directly into BMW’s fully digital cockpit , meaning that customers can view all important information not just on the central Control Display but also in intelligently adapted form in the instrument cluster’s Info Display as well as in the Head Up Display , where it appears directly in the driver’s driving direction.

The Google Assistant on Android Auto makes it easy to get directions, keep in touch and stay productive . Many of our customers have pointed out the
importance to them of having Android Auto inside a BMW for using a number of familiar Android smartphone features safely without being distracted from the road, in addition to BMW’s own functions and services,” says Peter Henrich, Senior Vice President Product Management BMW. “We will offer this service to our customers starting in July 2020."

Patrick Brady, Vice President of Engineering, Google: “We are excited to work with BMW to bring wireless Android Auto to their customers worldwide next year. The seamless connection from Android smartphones to BMW vehicles allows customers to hit the road faster while maintaining access to all of their favourite apps and services in a safer experience.”

Android Auto in a BMW will be demonstrated live for the first time at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) 2020 and will be will be available for customers in 20 countries from July 2020 for all vehicles with BMW Operating System 7.0.

Please click this link to see the list of smartphones that support Android Auto with a wireless connection.
20 countries. What about the other 100+ something?
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July 2020 could imply MY2021 and beyond only?! Would be sad for many of us.....
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So basically it still screws over those of us that have new BMW's. By the sounds of it, my 2020 M2C won't get AA. Boooooo

Fairly certain AA is MUCH easier to integrate than AC, as the latter requires some extra hardware, if I remember correctly.
I love how problems w/AC are related to Apple but AA support is related to BMW not AA's support by Android licensees, "The glacial rollout of anything Android Auto"

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019...-after-launch/

Eagerly anticipating the new AA related threads...My phone isn't supported BMW suck...Why does AA require wireless support...etc.

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20 countries. What about the other 100+ something?
Don't quote me but I'm assuming it depends on the in-vehicle independent data connection to operate properly.

Not every part of the world has a proper internet connection, so it's limited to the countries that currently do.
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Don't quote me but I'm assuming it depends on the in-vehicle independent data connection to operate properly.

Not every part of the world has a proper internet connection, so it's limited to the countries that currently do.
The vehicle connection is WiFI. The internet connection is the phone. So would be dependent on phone capabilities in that market not car. Car can mirror whatever the phone gives it.

The grip will be the lack of support for AA on the more "price" sensitive phones. Not sure if this is correct but AA is only supported on 8 phones!

https://joyofandroid.com/android-aut...atible-phones/

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Limited Compatibility

From another tech blog:
"The one downside to wireless Android Auto is it will only work with Pixel, Nexus, and Samsung phones"

https://www.xda-developers.com/bmw-android-auto-2020/

So, i am all in with Android and have been waiting for this, but will be disappointed if it doesn't work with my LG or Motorola phones.

EDIT: I assume the limited compatibility refers to wireless connections only... will direct USB connection be supported by BMW for universal Android compatibility?

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Don't quote me but I'm assuming it depends on the in-vehicle independent data connection to operate properly.

Not every part of the world has a proper internet connection, so it's limited to the countries that currently do.
The vehicle connection is WiFI. The internet connection is the phone. So would be dependent on phone capabilities in that market not car. Car can mirror whatever the phone gives it.
The BMW APPs (Spotify, Napster, BMW M Laptimer, ect) all stopped working recently in my vehicle and I was going crazy trying to figure out why.

Come to find out that the reason was because my ConnectDrive data subscription had expired and the APP are all dependent on the vehicle's independent data connection to populate, even though it was using my phone data to stream the main function.

Within a few minutes of renewing it, everything was back up and running.

So yes, believe it or not, all APP and interface like CarPlay does use the in-vehicle data connection, to a degree. How do think it validates if you have a current CarPlay subscription.
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The BMW APPs (Spotify, Napster, BMW M Laptimer, ect) all stopped working recently in my vehicle and I was going crazy trying to figure out why.

Come to find out that the reason because my ConnectDrive subscription had expired and the APP are all dependent on the vehicle's independent data connection to population, even though it was using my phone data to steam the main function.

Within a few minutes renewing it, everything was back up and running.

So yes, believe it or not, all APP and interface like CarPlay does use the in-vehicle data connection, to a degree. How do think it validates if you have a current CarPlay subscription.
The phone mirrors and streams the content, like a mainframe dumb terminal.

My guess is since your subscription expired the car refused to except the stream from the phone. To do what you're saying would require the car to use the Vehicle Mobile Number which you would have to activate w/your carrier as BMW isn't going to pay for that. Not sure how the ConnectedDrive Digital Services communicate w/the mothership but would think it's not using cellular.
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The BMW APPs (Spotify, Napster, BMW M Laptimer, ect) all stopped working recently in my vehicle and I was going crazy trying to figure out why.

Come to find out that the reason because my ConnectDrive subscription had expired and the APP are all dependent on the vehicle's independent data connection to population, even though it was using my phone data to steam the main function.

Within a few minutes renewing it, everything was back up and running.

So yes, believe it or not, all APP and interface like CarPlay does use the in-vehicle data connection, to a degree. How do think it validates if you have a current CarPlay subscription.
The phone mirrors and streams the content, like a mainframe dumb terminal.

My guess is since your subscription expired the car refused to except the stream from the phone. To do what you're saying would require the car to use the Vehicle Mobile Number which you would have to activate w/your carrier as BMW isn't going to pay for that. Not sure how the ConnectedDrive Digital Services communicate w/the mothership but would think it's not using cellular.

I'm telling you it's dependent on the vehicle's internet connection to populate, not operate.

Yes, after it loads and authenticates, your phone takes over for the main function and it uses your phone's data stream but the initial functions is still dependent on the in-vehicle data connection.

I'm not going to go around in circles, if you doubt me, contact Connectdrive customer service and they'll confirm it.
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I'm telling you it's dependent on the vehicle's internet connection to populate, not operate.

Yes, after it loads and authenticates, your phone takes over for the main function and it uses your phone's data stream but the initial functions is still dependent on the in-vehicle data connection.

I'm not going to go around in circles, if you doubt me, contact Connectdrive customer service and they'll confirm it.
My point is BMW ConnnectedDrive services use an in-vehicle data connection that is NOT dependent on a cell phone.

EDIT:

Misread your original post as "in-vehicle data connection used by AC vs. in-vehicle data connection used by BC to validate AC subscription"

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The BMW APPs (Spotify, Napster, BMW M Laptimer, ect) all stopped working recently in my vehicle and I was going crazy trying to figure out why.

Come to find out that the reason was because my ConnectDrive data subscription had expired and the APP are all dependent on the vehicle's independent data connection to populate, even though it was using my phone data to steam the main function.

Within a few minutes of renewing it, everything was back up and running.

So yes, believe it or not, all APP and interface like CarPlay does use the in-vehicle data connection, to a degree. How do think it validates if you have a current CarPlay subscription.
As someone who works for Apple, I can tell you that CarPlay / Android Auto have nothing to do with in car anything. Even a Nissan Sentra is compatible with these, and that car has far from anything remotely related to in vehicle data connection.
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The BMW APPs (Spotify, Napster, BMW M Laptimer, ect) all stopped working recently in my vehicle and I was going crazy trying to figure out why.

Come to find out that the reason was because my ConnectDrive data subscription had expired and the APP are all dependent on the vehicle's independent data connection to populate, even though it was using my phone data to steam the main function.

Within a few minutes of renewing it, everything was back up and running.

So yes, believe it or not, all APP and interface like CarPlay does use the in-vehicle data connection, to a degree. How do think it validates if you have a current CarPlay subscription.
As someone who works for Apple, I can tell you that CarPlay / Android Auto have nothing to do with in car anything. Even a Nissan Sentra is compatible with these, and that car has far from anything remotely related to in vehicle data connection.
Well, since you work for Apple, you must have all the answers; like where could I find a charger

Look, this is getting annoying now, I give up, you win.

Believe whatever works for you and let's just move on..
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