2023 3.0 CSL BMW prototype spied from every angle [updated with Nurburgring video]

Sedan_Clan · 07-22-2022, 06:12 PM

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If the G80 grille was the bold and aggressive look of the future then why change it for this? The G80 grille should have never been and I wouldn't be surprised to see it gradually morph to something closer to the 3.0 CSL. Let's hope the final version is closer to some of the renders.

Considering half of BMW's line-up is some variation of the large grilles, they've made their position loud and clear.

Large is fine. 7 sided, disproportionate, and unintegrated with the rest of the car is obviously a mistake they're trying to avoid here.

Ehhh, I think they are simply incorporating aspects of a concept car. If BMW wanted that grille to permeate the line-up, that's the grille that would be permeating the line-up…..

….but it's not.

M3JetPilot · 07-22-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by M3JetPilot

If the G80 grille was the bold and aggressive look of the future then why change it for this? The G80 grille should have never been and I wouldn't be surprised to see it gradually morph to something closer to the 3.0 CSL. Let's hope the final version is closer to some of the renders.

Considering half of BMW's line-up is some variation of the large grilles, they've made their position loud and clear.

Large is fine. 7 sided, disproportionate, and unintegrated with the rest of the car is obviously a mistake they're trying to avoid here.

Ehhh, I think they are simply incorporating aspects of a concept car. If BMW wanted that grille to permeate the line-up, that's the grille that would be permeating the line-up…..

….but it's not.

Not that specific grille, just smaller and more in line with the last several decades. The G80 grille doesn't permeate BMW either. Far from it. It's a one-off, even in comparison to the very old grille it's suppose to emulate.

Chicane_ · 07-22-2022, 07:56 PM

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looks very well balanced, very well handling car.
unlike the M3 Touring which looked to be struggling to rotate in the corners

Looks to me like it exhibits a fair amount of controllable oversteer. You can see the rear rotate at turn in and hold the angle through the corner. A real driver's car.

IcewaterPete · 07-22-2022, 09:59 PM

Here it with the camo removed....

IB M · 07-23-2022, 12:24 AM

Does it get I-Drive 8?

Sedan_Clan · 07-23-2022, 12:42 AM

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looks very well balanced, very well handling car.
unlike the M3 Touring which looked to be struggling to rotate in the corners

Looks to me like it exhibits a fair amount of controllable oversteer. You can see the rear rotate at turn in and hold the angle through the corner. A real driver's car.

Agreed! It sounds really good too.

G30M · 07-23-2022, 01:22 AM

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Does it get I-Drive 8?

the M4 CSL gets a proper instrument cluster ...

G30M · 07-23-2022, 01:23 AM

proper instrument cluster if you zoom in
to pair with the smashed beaver teeth

G30M · 07-23-2022, 01:26 AM

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My mistake. It's actually $800k USD so 5.4 million Yuan.

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Kevin_The_Clean1 · 07-23-2022, 01:42 AM

Wish BWM could've started off with this normal looking grill. Looks much classier & sophisticated if you ask me.

Daaaadadundun · 07-23-2022, 02:55 AM

Per usual BMW manages to disappoint its fans once again. They 'celebrate' 50 years of M and they come up with a car that an average tuning company can come up with and do it for a way cheaper price.

SexyRoger · 07-23-2022, 04:02 AM

This is a BMW not the hack job they did on the G80/82.

Sublime00 · 07-23-2022, 08:00 AM

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Wish BWM could've started off with this normal looking grill. Looks much classier & sophisticated if you ask me.

What if the LCI cars get the new grill? Lol.

Lots of people will collectively lose their shit.

F32Fleet · 07-23-2022, 08:03 AM

They should call it the M5 CSL.

F32Fleet · 07-23-2022, 08:09 AM

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Not that specific grille, just smaller and more in line with the last several decades. The G80 grille doesn't permeate BMW either. Far from it. It's a one-off, even in comparison to the very old grille it's suppose to emulate.

Hurdles which the grill had to overcome were front plate location and EU pedestrian impact regulations.

omasou · 07-23-2022, 08:52 AM

Shame that the majority of these will likely live their lives in a climate controlled garage instead of being driven on the track.

IB M · 07-23-2022, 09:26 AM

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proper instrument cluster if you zoom in
to pair with the smashed beaver teeth

I drive 8 - in 5 years time - wonder how it ages

:- i prefer Porsche's approach of smaller central screen UNDER the dash line.

n55f15 · 07-23-2022, 10:30 AM

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I drive 8 - in 5 years time - wonder how it ages

:- i prefer Porsche's approach of smaller central screen UNDER the dash line.

The car has Idrive 7

n55f15 · 07-23-2022, 10:32 AM

Definitely my favourite shot of the car

IB M · 07-23-2022, 10:33 AM

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I drive 8 - in 5 years time - wonder how it ages

:- i prefer Porsche's approach of smaller central screen UNDER the dash line.

The car has Idrive 7

That's a win IMO for the fortunate few buyers

Looking forward to seeing in the flesh. What colors are coming ??? How about Imola Red please??

brettsvn · 07-23-2022, 09:36 PM

Much better grill design

BMWF87Melb · 07-23-2022, 09:43 PM

I really hope they put more effort into making a much more refined manual transmission for this special model.. just won't cut it if it's just like the standard bmw 6MT box at this price

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