[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

No other car has what [the Z06] has, for the price point, period.

That's all i'm saying.

We're in agreement on that point.

Personally, I do consider vehicles from vastly different categories though. I'll compare wildly different categories of vehicles that have a similar price range; as well as compare wildly different priced vehicles within the same category. I don't think I'm unique in this regard.

Example of my note with vehicles under consideration (at least at some point recently) with my specs priced between $70k-$99k. Not crazy wild, but I bet not many would think a Cayman T, Charger Hellcat, and a Bronco Raptor are on the same person's radar.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

We're in agreement on that point.

Personally, I do consider vehicles from vastly different categories though. I'll compare wildly different categories of vehicles that have a similar price range; as well as compare wildly different priced vehicles within the same category. I don't think I'm unique in this regard.

Example of my note with vehicles under consideration (at least at some point recently) with my specs priced between $70k-$99k. Not crazy wild, but I bet not many would think a Cayman T, Charger Hellcat, and a Bronco Raptor are on the same person's radar.

All great great cars for that price point but i think you are on the same page as me when i said the z06 has what no other car has at that price point.

Mid engine, FPC V8, almost 700hp, DCT, exotic looks, widebody, capable of pulling insane lap times of cars double/triple it's price. Nothing on your list comes close. In fact, there is NO CAR, brand new, that has what the z06 has, for the price.

Those who are fortunate enough to be able to own multiple cars and your list makes perfect sense.

If someone just wants ONE TOY, then it'll be hard to look elsewhere besides the z06, DISREGARDING insane waiting times.

The z06, if could be had as easily as previous gen z06's, would be a one stop shop car for everyone. There is really nothing else to buy at that price point.

[NYG]

Ouch for all of us on the list...

There are only two current 2023 Corvette Z06 constraints, but they’re both big ones.

Order banks have officially opened for the all-new 2023 Corvette Z06 ahead of production beginning in September, and dealer allocations were just revealed as well, meaning that we’re one step closer to seeing (and hearing) these high-revving machines on the road. However, as is the case with pretty much every new vehicle these days, a number of supply constraints will have an impact on what features customers can spec the car with, at least in the short term. Now, those 2023 Corvette Z06 constraints have been revealed via a dealer memo recently seen by Corvette Blogger.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, both the Z07 Performance Package and T0F/T0G Carbon Fiber Aero Package are among the most notable 2023 Corvette Z06 constraints, as both figure to be quite popular with customers. Regardless, it’s certainly not good news, particularly for those that have been on a dealer waiting list for the C8 Z06 for years at this point, keen to purchase the ultimate example of this track-focused machine. GM didn’t list any percentages for these constraints in its dealer memo, however, so we don’t know precisely how constrained these option packages actually are.

2023 Corvette Z06 Constraints Revealed via Dealer Document

Thankfully, those two admittedly major packages are the only constraints for the new Z06 at this time, but the Stingray continues to face a revolving door of them. This dealer memo outlines the latest of those as well, a list that includes the Z51 Performance Package, FE2/FE4 Magnetic Ride Control, 5ZZ/5ZU Carbon Flash/Body Color High Wing Spoiler, RIA/PEF floor liners, and the RCC/RCD Red and Sterling Silver Engine Covers.

2023 Corvette Z06 Constraints Revealed via Dealer Document

The 2023 Corvette Z06 – which will be slapped with a rather significant gas guzzler tax – is currently expected to enter production the week of September 19, while as we previously reported, allocations will be based on prior C8 sales, specifically pertaining the the pricier 3LT trim. This is not a new approach, though it’s notable given the fact that larger dealers that churn more high-trimmed C8s will benefit greatly from this formula.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/articl...aler-document/

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Right. I mean there's a reason toyota went with the B58 for the MKV supra lol.

B58 sounds infinitely better than sh*t S58 exhaust note.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by M3WC

B58 sounds infinitely better than sh*t S58 exhaust note.

Totally agree.

I hate the way the G8X sounds. Sounds fucking awful.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Right. I mean there's a reason toyota went with the B58 for the MKV supra lol.

Lotus has a chance to really make a name for itself again when they go EV.

Their ICE cars can't really compete with all the stuff out now. Cars like the 718 and the C8 ruined everything lol.

Because they care more about being profitable then developing a bespoke engine for a sports car.

The lead for the project already said if they had developed their own engine/chassis the car would have cost north of $100k. So let the BMW do the hard work and can still maintain the profitability level they want for their shareholders.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

Because they care more about being profitable then developing a bespoke engine for a sports car.

The lead for the project already said if they had developed their own engine/chassis the car would have cost north of $100k. So let the BMW do the hard work and can still maintain the profitability level they want for their shareholders.

I’m sure they’ve could’ve figured out some engine in their lineup they could’ve stuffed into the Supra. Because isn’t their 4cyl Supra a bmw engine as well?

Don’t get me wrong they did good with that b58, that’s why those cars are little monsters. Wish it came with a v8 though, cause I would’ve bought one.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

We're in agreement on that point.

Personally, I do consider vehicles from vastly different categories though. I'll compare wildly different categories of vehicles that have a similar price range; as well as compare wildly different priced vehicles within the same category. I don't think I'm unique in this regard.

Example of my note with vehicles under consideration (at least at some point recently) with my specs priced between $70k-$99k. Not crazy wild, but I bet not many would think a Cayman T, Charger Hellcat, and a Bronco Raptor are on the same person's radar.

This is a great list. For some of those you would have to pay 10-20k markup, e.g. for the Bronco Raptor.

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

So many complaining about the Z06 becoming out of reach seem to jump right to the used market as an alternative. Lotus' upcoming Emira is priced right there (my spec is $96k); yet I don't think I've heard a single person contemplate an Emira instead. It's even available with a manual transmission. Weird.

I considered one...until I saw the price & the lack of HP for said $

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

We're in agreement on that point.

Personally, I do consider vehicles from vastly different categories though. I'll compare wildly different categories of vehicles that have a similar price range; as well as compare wildly different priced vehicles within the same category. I don't think I'm unique in this regard.

Example of my note with vehicles under consideration (at least at some point recently) with my specs priced between $70k-$99k. Not crazy wild, but I bet not many would think a Cayman T, Charger Hellcat, and a Bronco Raptor are on the same person's radar.

More proof that new car pricing has been out of control since before the pandemic

[Donatello.]

Originally Posted by Cos270

For my money, I'd rather have an Emira over a base C8.

I agree there, but not over the Z for the $.

Base C8 can get over $100k with options. Hard pass anywhere near that. Priced right at the MSRP, but you don't get a lot that should be standard

[BGM-M3COMP]

Way to go GM!

On the way to become the first ever corvette supercar!

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Way to go GM!

On the way to become the first ever corvette supercar!

Amazing sound, yum yum

[BGM-M3COMP]

How can we really knock GM for giving us this?

I can't wait to get mine.

[Cos270]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Way to go GM!

On the way to become the first ever corvette supercar!

Shame all the "influencers" are getting a hold of these before proper car journalists and publications. Oh well, GM marketing has always been a crap shoot.

[KevinGS]

My goodness, that thing sounds soooo good, STOCK

GM

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by Donatello.

I agree there, but not over the Z for the $.

Base C8 can get over $100k with options. Hard pass anywhere near that. Priced right at the MSRP, but you don't get a lot that should be standard

Have you built a Stingray and/or Z06 to YOUR spec and seen what the retail price would be? What the price "can" get to isn't really very important.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Way to go GM!

On the way to become the first ever corvette supercar!

All these youtubers started copying Stradman. Extremely annoying to watch.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

All these youtubers started copying Stradman. Extremely annoying to watch.

I cannot stand Stradman. His voice makes me want to jab an icepick into my eye

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

All these youtubers started copying Stradman. Extremely annoying to watch.

It's smart business. They provide content and act in a way that gets clicks. If i could do it, i would've done youtube myself as well.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

It's smart business. They provide content and act in a way that gets clicks. If i could do it, i would've done youtube myself as well.

I’m sure you can do this. You just need to sniff enough cocaine to act that way.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

I’m sure you can do this. You just need to sniff enough cocaine to act that way.

Hahaha pretty sure a lot of them do already.

But the viewers that watch this content are mainly young.

Young people are very very very loud. That’s the next generation I hate to say.