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      12-25-2018, 04:19 PM   #23
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Had my 70000K service today.

Pretty much was a disaster...
So
1. head cover for the valves - leaking oil.
2. Vaccum pump needs replacement - ?did they even check it?
3. Turbo cold air intake cracked - needs replacement.
4. coolant reservoir is cracked aswell but tiny dent on the top not leaking anything - obviously trying to rip me.

anyone had so many issues with a 4 year old car????

Unbelievable
F20 - 118i (2013).

o2 sensor replaced last week. This is the only problem i have since owning the car.
F20 116i 2013 47k miles
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      01-14-2019, 11:18 AM   #24
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Wondering too...



I recently got a recall from BMW Norway about some steering issues... could this be the one?
Mine wasn't a recall issue so I can't comment, sorry. But I do have the dynamic steering rack, hence the expensive repair.

In my case no fault was noticed as such just wear and tear, although I have lowered the car with springs from Birds which may have contributed to that.

I'm about to go full-on Birds B1 with the additional Bilstein dampers as the original stock damps are now worn out too.
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      01-24-2019, 03:31 PM   #25
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Hi all,

Didn't want to open a new thread.
The problem I start having is that car is stalling/shaking while decelerating when it is cold. It is not like a knock. Just the engine goes up to 1200 rpm and down to 900 rpm constantly until I completely stop or accelerate. the feeling is like the brake pads are all worn out and car is going to slip under your feet.
After a few minutes of driving, all goes back to normal. spark-plugs are replaced 4 months ago along with all brake pads.
My wild guess is that it might be related to fuel, fuel pump or ignition coils. or could it be chronical turbo problem on n13 engines=
Has anyone experienced the same issue?
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      01-24-2019, 04:17 PM   #26
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I guess it is an automatic since it can rev up while you are decelerating? I would guess gearbox issues or throttle position sensor.
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      01-24-2019, 04:28 PM   #27
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I guess it is an automatic since it can rev up while you are decelerating? I would guess gearbox issues or throttle position sensor.
yes it is an automatic, sorry I forgot to mention that.
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      02-02-2019, 12:46 PM   #28
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Hi,

Bellow you have the info regarding tuning and specs! no issue in life spam regarding tuning it to 220HP

N13 Specs
Manufacturer BMW Plant Hams Hall
Also called BMW N13
Production 2011-present
Cylinder block alloy Aluminum
Configuration Straight-4
Valvetrain DOHC
4 valves per cylinder
Piston stroke, mm (inch) 85.8 (3.38)
Cylinder bore, mm (inch) 77 (3.03)
Compression ratio 10.5
Displacement 1598 cc (97.5 cu in)
Power output 75 kW (102 HP) at 4,000 rpm
100 kW (136 HP) at 4,400 rpm
125 kW (170 HP) at 4,800 rpm
130 kW (177 HP) at 5,000 rpm
Torque output 180 Nm (133 lb·ft) at 1,100-3,900 rpm
220 Nm (162 lb·ft) at 1,350-4,300 rpm
250 Nm (184 lb·ft) at 1,500-4,500 rpm
250 Nm (184 lb·ft) at 1,500-4,500 rpm
Redline 6,500 rpm
HP per liter 63.8
85.1
106.4
110.8
Fuel type Gasoline
Fuel system Bosch MEVD17.2.4
Weight, kg (lbs) –
Fuel consumption, L/100 km (mpg)
-City
-Highway
-Combined for F20 116i
7.2 (32.7)
4.8 (49)
5.7 (41.3)
Turbocharger Garrett MGT1549ZDL
Oil consumption , L/1000 km
(qt. per miles) up to 0.7
(1 qt. per 850 miles)
Recommended engine oil 5W-30
5W-40
Engine oil capacity, L (qt.) 4.25 (4.5)
Oil change interval, km (miles) 7,000-10,000
(4,500-6,000)
Normal engine operating temperature, °C (F) –
Engine lifespan, km (miles)
-Official information
-Real

250+ (155)
Tuning, HP
-Max HP
-No life span loss
200+

The engine is installed in BMW 114i F20
BMW 116i F20
BMW 118i F20
BMW 316i F30
BMW 320i F30 EfficientDynamics Edition
Hi,

As far as I know, the 118i F20 has an additional oil cooler when compared to the less powerful 114i and 116i. I've heard some people run into excessively high oil temperatures (higher than recommended by BMW) when remapping the 114i/116i up to 220hp on stage 1. Is this true? Is this the only difference between the engines in 114i, 116i and 118i other than a different ECU map?

Thanks
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      03-02-2019, 09:45 AM   #29
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Is this the only difference between the engines in 114i, 116i and 118i other than a different ECU map?

Thanks
+1
I am also interested in this.
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      03-02-2019, 01:45 PM   #30
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problem appeared to be well known turbo o-ring, v-belt (or alternator belt whatever you call it) issues on N13 engines. replacing both solved the issue.
If you ever face with low coolant indicator or full engine power not available warning messages on an N13 car, it is probably related to that.

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+1
I am also interested in this.
the differences between 118i @170 hp and other variants of that engine are

-Heat exchanger (balances oil temp)
-Exhaust diameter (2.5" on 170-177hp versions , 2.0" on rest)
-ECU map
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      03-05-2019, 05:30 AM   #31
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the differences between 118i @170 hp and other variants of that engine are

-Heat exchanger (balances oil temp)
-Exhaust diameter (2.5" on 170-177hp versions , 2.0" on rest)
-ECU map
Recently, I have also heard that different materials/alloys are used for the internals of the engine, like the piston, etc...
Does anyone know how different they are?
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      03-05-2019, 08:35 AM   #32
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Recently, I have also heard that different materials/alloys are used for the internals of the engine, like the piston, etc...
Does anyone know how different they are?
I heard that regarding PSA version of the joint project Prince engine (the top Peugeot RCZ 200 bhp, in particular?). Rumours. You can compare part numbers. Here, for instance: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/select. I recall somebody shared (on a local forum) he had done this and the list provided above should be complete. FWIW
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      03-05-2019, 02:47 PM   #33
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Pistons have the same code between 116i and 118i. Also injectors and HPFP.

However 116i turbo has a different code from the 118i, but same as 114i. Weight is slightly different at ~70g. Any idea about this ? Is it actually a different turbo, or maybe just some different minor parts (orings, manifolds etc.) ?

114i
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5018
116i
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5018
118i
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5018

or

116i
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5018
118i
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5018


Edit: I have searched for both codes from BMW, 11627643719 and 11627643717, and they appear on specifications for the same turbo (here, here or here), Garrett Turbo P/N: 819997-5001S GT15, Model MGT1549ZDL. So maybe the same basic part after all ? Does anyone know more ?

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      03-05-2019, 11:58 PM   #34
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I saw on a russian board that apparently some 116i have smaller turbos, although they are supposedly very few. Does anyone know about this ? Maybe someone from Russia could translate the important parts:

https://www.drive2.com/l/3953196/
https://www.drive2.com/l/3631987/


Also maybe this should be moved to a separate thread.
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      03-06-2019, 07:21 AM   #35
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Maybe someone from Russia could translate the important parts
Don't underestimate Google (many languages to choose, by the way). You can use it to translate sentences/texts rather than only words. The quality is, of course, very unstable (from amazing to crappy), depending on the input sentence structure. They discard the appropriate wording context completely as well , so it's not safe to use for communication (I recall a recent review/complaint of their app translating "an exciting gift" formal compliment as "a horny gift" ) but it should retrieve the overall meaning (provided you would get it from the initial message even if native ) most often. Try the languages you know.

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Also maybe this should be moved to a separate thread.
Most definitely, this is an off-topic here. Start a dedicated thread and quote the appropriate posts there. It's unlikely a moderator would move posts or even start a thread for you. I guess I saw (severe) off-topics deleted only.
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      03-06-2019, 07:52 AM   #36
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I started a new thread about 116i vs 118i differences here.

So back ontopic, is looks like the 1.6 N13 engine is relatively trouble free, aside from some gaskets, hoses and sensors which have to be replaced after a while ?

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      09-20-2019, 07:10 AM   #37
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My 2013 116i F20 with only 40k km: trunk lock, coil and recently a fuel tank failure! Not what I would consider as reliable car...
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      10-06-2019, 02:26 PM   #38
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Same here.
F20 116i 2013 manual with 61K (km).
Took it for service last week and was told:

1. gasket oil sweat. (not so serious in my opinion).
2. Vaccum pump needs replacement (because of oil sweat - not leaking).
3. Turbo cold air intake cracked - needs replacement.

Looks like the N13 engine suffers from the same issues. decided to replace the intake pipe and that's it.
Will check the oil-sweat and will decide in the future.
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