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      08-11-2013, 02:23 PM   #1
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120d xDrive - Budget

Hi all,

Finally asked for a budget for a 120d with the x-Drive and would love to hear your opinion.

- 120d
- xDrive
- M Package
- 18" alloy wheels
- Estoril Blue
- Business navy system
- Xenon package
- Cruise package (Parking sensors, Cruise control, Variable sport steering wheel)
- Bluetooth hands free

- Folding back seats









Price: 33.500€

Do you guys think it's a good price?

Thanks!
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      08-11-2013, 02:48 PM   #2
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Isn't folding seats and bluetooth handsfree standard equipment on these cars?
I can't comment on the price, as it would cost a LOT more in Norway.
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      08-11-2013, 03:24 PM   #3
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      08-11-2013, 04:21 PM   #4
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Isn't folding seats and bluetooth handsfree standard equipment on these cars?
I can't comment on the price, as it would cost a LOT more in Norway.
Believe it or not, they aren't... Not even folding seats, its amazing...

Bradbury, my dealer ofered me them, but i do not really lik'em at all.

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      08-13-2013, 11:47 AM   #5
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If it's on runflats and your roads aren't that smooth, I would seriously consider having a 17" wheel rather than the 18". I have the 18" on mine and I prefer the ride of the 114d loaner on 17" wheels I have for now.

Yes the 18" wheels look great but expect the ride to be quite firm.
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      08-13-2013, 12:42 PM   #6
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If it's on runflats and your roads aren't that smooth, I would seriously consider having a 17" wheel rather than the 18". I have the 18" on mine and I prefer the ride of the 114d loaner on 17" wheels I have for now.

Yes the 18" wheels look great but expect the ride to be quite firm.
The fact is that it really improves with the 18" ones, and I'm still young and even prefer a firmer ride!

Thanks though!


What about the price?
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      08-13-2013, 01:10 PM   #7
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I would add M Sport brakes too, they look great with 18" wheels.
The price is very good from what I checked
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      08-13-2013, 03:45 PM   #8
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I would add M Sport brakes too, they look great with 18" wheels.
The price is very good from what I checked
M sport breaks just to improve how it looks or also for a bit more of perfomance? Guess stock ones aren't bat at all!

I also think its a good price for the amount of equipment!
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      08-13-2013, 04:53 PM   #9
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M sport breaks just to improve how it looks or also for a bit more of perfomance? Guess stock ones aren't bat at all!

I also think its a good price for the amount of equipment!
The regular brakes are excellent on our 116i, even for track use. I guess the M-Sport brakes can take even more heat, which could come in handy on more powerful versions of the F20/F21.
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Regarding folding rear seats it's standard. But if you add "S465 - Folding rear seats" you'll get through loading system (40:20:40) and folding rear arm rest with cup holders.

I don't have S465 but I do have folding rear seats (60:40) with no arm rest.

So if you want to spend you 300€ on something else, check this up.
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The regular brakes are excellent on our 116i, even for track use. I guess the M-Sport brakes can take even more heat, which could come in handy on more powerful versions of the F20/F21.
Guess im good with the standard ones, casue wasn't even thinking of racing in a track ,)

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Regarding folding rear seats it's standard. But if you add "S465 - Folding rear seats" you'll get through loading system (40:20:40) and folding rear arm rest with cup holders.

I don't have S465 but I do have folding rear seats (60:40) with no arm rest.

So if you want to spend you 300€ on something else, check this up.
Didn't know that! Thanks for the info! Indeed I would appreciate it
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I can't even order an xDrive 1-series in the USA.
Can't you? Didn't know that... It's been a while since it's available here in Europe I think
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The fact is that it really improves with the 18" ones, and I'm still young and even prefer a firmer ride!

Thanks though!


What about the price?
Improves? if you say so but if accelerating hard and riding over a bump you can find the firmer setup clearing the ground, car revvs and kicks.

Softer setup absorbs the bump and maintains contact, firm is great but depends on the roads you will travel over as I said.

UK is shocking for rough surfaces in many places so big wheels and short sidewall can be jiggly.

Hard has nothing to do with age, try an Ariel Atom I loved driving that.
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Improves? if you say so but if accelerating hard and riding over a bump you can find the firmer setup clearing the ground, car revvs and kicks.

Softer setup absorbs the bump and maintains contact, firm is great but depends on the roads you will travel over as I said.

UK is shocking for rough surfaces in many places so big wheels and short sidewall can be jiggly.

Hard has nothing to do with age, try an Ariel Atom I loved driving that.
Improving in the visual looking I meant!

The roads that im gonna be driving by are pretty good, 50% highway-50% trunk road (but in good conditions)
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Improving in the visual looking I meant!

The roads that im gonna be driving by are pretty good, 50% highway-50% trunk road (but in good conditions)
Ah right, if looking good is a priority then yes.
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Ah right, if looking good is a priority then yes.
Maybe not the first priority, but we all prefer that a part from having a good car, a good looking!
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Just a question, does anyone know if this feature is available in this model?

http://www.bmw.es/es/es/insights/tec...ctive_steering

My dealer told me this feature came with the sport variable steering wheel, but I can't find it anywhere :S
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I don't think rear wheel steering is offered for the one series.
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      08-18-2013, 11:14 AM   #20
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I don't think rear wheel steering is offered for the one series.
My dealer told me so...

And pretty strange to show a 1 series when explaining the system on the website and not offering this for that model (http://www.bmw.es/es/es/insights/tec..._steering.html)

Also found this:



Where you can see that 1 series should have this option
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You can have Avtive Steering on 1-series. This system, part of the optional Sport package, electromechanically adds a positive or negative steering angle to the setting chosen by the driver, via a planetary gearset integrated into the steering column. This reduces steering motion at low speeds (say, while parking) and when negotiating tight turns on curvy roads, requiring only two turns lock-to-lock rather than three. It also makes the steering much more direct at high speeds.

But the rear-axle steering are just from 5-serie and up.
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You can have Avtive Steering on 1-series. This system, part of the optional Sport package, electromechanically adds a positive or negative steering angle to the setting chosen by the driver, via a planetary gearset integrated into the steering column. This reduces steering motion at low speeds (say, while parking) and when negotiating tight turns on curvy roads, requiring only two turns lock-to-lock rather than three. It also makes the steering much more direct at high speeds.

But the rear-axle steering are just from 5-serie and up.
Got it! Really thankful for the explanation
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