[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by JamesWWIII

Nowhere in that article does it say she was “being attended to” by all these medical professionals, it simply says they were called in by the police, and were present at the scene while officers “continued to talk to her”. It may have been that she was barricaded in her home somehow, refusing to let the medical people see her, and that’s why the police were talking to her. This article simply doesn’t provide enough detail.

At any rate, the fact that police were present and negotiating with her on the scene for 90 minutes before this woman escalated the situation is proof enough to me that this wasn’t some trigger-happy hit squad. Sounds like they did what they had to do to protect themselves and the other first responders present from what they perceived to be a lethal threat. Also, believe it or not, suicide by cop is a real thing.

This is exactly right. Having been on the EMS side responding to a psychiatric patient, I know the SOPs involved in scene engagement and management. I remember one call my crew was dispatched on. Police was already on scene. When we arrived, I radioed in to dispatch if the scene was secure. I didn't authorize my crew to enter the apartment until I got word from dispatch that the police had secured the scene.

Psychiatric situations are extremely volatile and unpredictable. One of the things they teach us in training is a person in an unstable state can do anything including taking you with them. I also have the discretion of having an officer follow us to the hospital when we are transporting a psych patient. I've also done this on a call.

[Lucky John]

Originally Posted by schoy

Did any of you actually read the article? According to the article, here’s what happened:
“Officers were called to Marquez’s home in the 1100 block of Fremont Avenue by a landlord to check on her welfare. When the officers arrived around 12 p.m., she was suffering from seizures and appeared unable to take care of herself. Officers called out paramedics and a mental health clinician, and continued to talk with her. After about 90 minutes, Marquez, 49, armed herself with a BB gun and pointed it at the officers, causing them to open fire, said Sheriff’s Lt. Joe Mendoza.”

So:
1) Marquez was suffering from seizures, which is why the officers were called in the first place. Clearly, she was suffering from some kind of mental disorder.
2) A bunch of people were with her at the time: the officers, the paramedics, themental health clinician.
3). Somehow, she took it upon herself, despite being watched by all those people, to make her way to where the BB gun was located and pointed it at the officers.

Something doesn’t seem to add up... or that may exactly be what happened. But any reasonable person has got to have more than a few questions, such as:

What happened during those 90 minutes, where she went from seizure, being attended to by multiple professionals, to BB-gun wielding maniac?

Why was she even left alone or even allowed to access a BB gun while being attended to?

Again, it may be that the officers were completely in the right, but I hope they were wearing body cams; it would help understand the 90-minute gap in the article.

She was probably suffering from Rapid Cycling Bipolar Disorder. Very high suicide rate. High level of flightiness and rapid mood swings. Difficult to control a person in their own home until they provide you with enough information to take them into custody/psychiatric hold.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

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Looks like a young Rand Paul. haha.