04-03-2008, 10:29 AM | #23 |
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It sounds great, not for me but great. There are faster cars on the road then I have, I don't try to degrade or discredit to soothe my ego. I have the car for me and I would like to see bmw make a tii for those that want that car even though it will outperform the my new car.
In sumation, don't hate on others for what they drive, I drove a buick before this car and loved it (until I drove the 135).
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04-03-2008, 01:03 PM | #24 | |
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honestly i see it being 128ish in power output and price but less refined (although its hard to discern between what i want and what i forsee, haha) and also if this is the direction bmw is heading, i dont see it being that limited of production but it will be nowhere near the bang-for-the-buck that the 135 is |
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04-03-2008, 01:49 PM | #25 | |
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It sounds to me that they are achieving their stated goal with the release of the Performance Catalog - which surely will get more and more parts as time goes by. A few years from now, say 1-2 years before the end of the model run, they may come out with a factory tii model, similar to the ZHP package on the E46 cars (2 years before end of production). So I guess buying now and picking & choosing from the perf catalog is still a viable strategy. After all, what good will it do to install CF mirror caps??? Save 30g per side???
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04-30-2008, 07:33 PM | #27 |
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BMW Will Revive tii Badge for 1- and 3-series
BMW Will Revive tii Badge for 1- and 3-series
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...ies/index.html The tii revival didn't exactly start off with a bang. At the Tokyo auto show last fall, BMW resurrected its fabled tii suffix-best known as the high-performance version of the company's marque-making 2002. Unfortunately, the Tokyo concept was little more than a 1-series coupe with a cosmetic package. The show car was accurate in that a tii kit is in the works for the 1-series coupe, according to BMW chief Norbert Reithofer. The package consists of aero body add-ons, carbon-fiber trim, wider wheels and tires, sport seats and instruments, and a new, M-style steering wheel with an integrated LED rev counter. That's fine, but a tii deserves substance, not just style. The good news is that the substance is coming, and eventually tii cars will supplement the M cars as a second strain of performance models, one that's more accessible and emphasizes connectedness rather than absolute power. They are designed to be raw and rather loud driving machines that deliver a particularly intimate aural and tactile experience, as well as a higher level of dynamic connectivity. In technical terms, this means upgrades such as more direct steering, a firmer suspension, reduced noise insulation, and a brawnier drivetrain. The good stuff could start arriving as early as later this summer, with the face-lifted 2009 3-series. That car is under consideration for a tii version that, in addition to styling tweaks, would include M3 brakes, nineteen-inch wheels, a sport suspension, a dual-clutch transmission, and increased boost pressure that would bump the output of the 3.0-liter twin-turbo engine from 300 hp to about 355 hp. The tii revival gets into full swing with the next-generation models of the 1-series (due in late 2011), the 3-series (out in early 2012), the X3 (also in 2011), and the new X1 (coming in mid-2009). All four of those cars are slated to get tii versions that will have emphatically sporty appearances and exceptional dynamic abilities. The 1-series tii would feature a lighter unibody and use a direct-injected, 2.0-liter twin-turbo four-cylinder good for 300 hp. BMW is even evaluating unique, tii-specific body styles. The most intriguing is the so-called "sharknose" version-a special tii body style for the 3-series. It is almost retro in character, with thin roof pillars, a relatively upright windshield and rear window, and simple head- and taillights, as well as traditional "waterline" styling (which also can be found on the current 1-series coupe and cabriolet). Aslightly longer front end and a cab-backward greenhouse should also help create a quite different tii-only appearance. It's too early to tell whether the tii game plan will first come into effect on the 1-series or the 3-series or what the exact scope will be. But it's clear that BMW is determined to plug the gap between the sport packages and the M cars, using a more affordable mix of visual and engineering enhancements worthy of the iconic tii suffix. |
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04-30-2008, 07:53 PM | #28 |
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They should put a 250hp turbo 4 banger with a low stance, 19" forged wheels, fat low tires, no sunroof. Maybe just a great stereo and power windows. With racing seats, no adjustments. 2950# 0-60 5.0.
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