10-20-2013, 01:43 PM | #23 | |
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I'm also not sure how these options detract from the driving experience. Auto is a personal choice and you get the same suspension, steering etc on your 116i that you do my 125i. a 125i weighs only 55kg more than a 116i and as for the weight of all my options, I imagine if you look at the weight range of the driver from a slender girl to a well built guy, that variation if you're a well built guy accounts for more than the weight of all my options, of that I'm sure. How much weight do you think my toys actually add to the car? So if you so worried about weight the first place to start would be a diet |
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As an all rounder in the 160kw warm/hot hatch segment, it remains the best all rounder. Incredibly good resale as well. But the Bm has come a long way, when I bought my first GTI in 2007 the 1 series alternative for similar money was a modestly specc'd E8? 120i. It was a joke in comparison. Now the 125i is up there with power and quality and in a base m-sport model on price as well. The spec is a little light in comparison or if you want the toys the 125i will cost a little more. And the GTI also has far better interior space utilization which matters if you need a fairly practical car. But if I spec up a GTI to my 125i level, xenons, up rated sound, parking sensors, nav, sunroof, the price difference is still insignificant. Remember you have to pay extra for a full maintainance plan instead of just a service plan on a GTI. But yeah, damn good car that. Can never go wrong with a GTI and the new model is a looker, but I expect to see so many that they will soon no longer be a little special like my EB 1 is. Apparently since the mk5 50% of golfs sold in SA are GTIs. That's a lot of GTIs!! And their dealer network is painfully bad, maybe they can get away with it with the vivo crowd, but on a R400k car, I'm just really glad I never have to see the inside of a Vw service centre again! And trust me, I tried quite a few dealerships as I had a polo before my GTIs Last edited by diesel20; 10-20-2013 at 02:07 PM.. |
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I have driven cars with a great variation of power on track days, and found that it has very little influence on how much fun it is to drive. Accelerating down a straight is not very exciting anyway. The fun is all in the corners, and weight is very important. A light low power car is more fun to drive than a heavy and powerful car. There was an F20 116d demo car at an ice racing weekend. It was very popular. Everybody wanted to drive it over and over again, and came out of it with big smiles. It was also one of the fastest cars on the track. |
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I forgot to ask, did they have the price of the S3 at JIMS?
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I got a full A3/A3 sportback including S3 pricelist including standard equipment off the audi website last week dated for October, but I see they've taken it down and prices are being "reviewed" which can only mean one thing given the performance of the rand. I can mail it to you if you want so you can see all options and costs of all models.
But to answer the question, as of the October pricelist: S3 R457 500 S3 S-tronic R R474 500 S3 Sportback S-tronic (only seems to be available in S-tronic) R482 000. So will work out cheaper given it's lower price and slightly higher spec than an M135i. And I think even 206kw in a quattro hatch will be a lot of fun. But if you want the fastest hatch at the drag strip, this probably isn't it although it claims 0-100 of 4.9 for the manual, 5.0 for the s-tronic and 5.1 for the sportback S-tronic, so it remains an impressively fast hot hatch. But those figures could have been worked out on the european power level model, although they quote the lower power level and those performance figures on the S.A pricelist. |
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I thought something was wrong because the normal A3 pricelist wasn't there anymore when I checked yesterday.. Yeah 206 kW in a quattro will be fun, although I'm positive that the 0-100 times will be higher, given the lower outputs. Maybe 5.4 for the s-tronic I'm surprised that the s-tronic is slower?! However it will outshine the manual in everyday driving conditions. Damn, but the price is really good. I didn't expect that. Thanks |
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Is the torque the same?
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