11-01-2012, 02:24 PM | #24 |
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Its just the MINI Prince engine with a variation in the head.
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11-01-2012, 02:36 PM | #26 |
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Can't wait to see this thing in the MINI. The current MINI engines sort of lack that BMW feel so by sharing a platform with the 1er, the next-gen MINI might even be better and fun than the current R56 - smoother engine and go-kart like handling!
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11-01-2012, 04:30 PM | #28 |
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The 3-cylinder engine is all BMW, but the F20 four cylinder twin scroll turbo engine I have is pretty much the same engine you find in a Mini. It was built by BMW and Peugeot together.
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11-01-2012, 07:20 PM | #29 |
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Yeah I'd want to have the N20 IF there was a clear choice, but you guys get all the engine choices.
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11-02-2012, 12:33 AM | #30 |
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Awesome stuff, I think its great that all of the motors share a lot of parts, ultimately this (should) make maintenance and repairs easier on technicians and in the end less expensive for the owners...
Bring them on!
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11-02-2012, 01:51 AM | #32 |
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Whats not to like?
BMW have several manufacturer benefits. Customers might get some of those as well (lower price, easier for shops to repair and have spare parts too) Customer benefits over 4-cylinder -Lower fuel consumption (and lower Co2 taxes for some countries) -Better sound. Sportier sound! (More like a 6 cylinder) Two big arguments for me! Performance -Lower weight -Better weight distribution Other: -Maybe easier to work in the engine bay as well with all that space.. BMWs 1,6 sylinders have proved to be great. I don't think cutting down on 1 cylinder and only 0,1l displacement volume will make it worse with the modern technology. Please put these engines in ALL lower powered 2-series! |
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11-02-2012, 01:51 AM | #33 |
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I have read some reviews of the 3-cylinder engine prototype in the F20, and it doesn't vibrate more than a diesel four. People don't seem to mind the diesel vibrations, so I guess it should be okay. Besides, the production version will probably be further refined.
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Anyway, if this will be used for the 114i only then how are they going to position the *16 and *18 N13 models which make less than the 175hp the I3 is easily capable of? Will they simply detune the I3 to ridiculously low power? The current 114i only makes 102hp, the 116i and 316i are at 136hp, and the 118i is at 170hp. Again, it still does not make any sense to me for them to keep the I3 exclusive to the very lowest end vehicles only, when clearly it could replace the N13 wholesale. I don't expect the N37 and N13 to coexist for more than a year or two. No one is buying a 316i and thinking "Ok, I know this is just a 136hp 4 cylinder, but that's as low as I go. No way I am even considering an I3, even if has essentially the same displacement as the I4." I mean that is nonsense. And I do realize the N13 is being used in racing applications. So is the N18 for that matter. But is Mini going to use the N37 even for JCW models? If not, then they will move to the N20 next generation will they not? They could then use that engine for racing, and BMW could as well for that matter. |
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The US is only going to see the I3 in MINI and hybrid applications from what I've heard so it is really no biggie for the states. It will weigh less, have more performance and get better MPGs. I haven't had any seat time but I have heard lots of rave reviews for the past 2 years on this new engine so things are looking up...
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