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No i havent bought one... i built one one and it seemed far too expensive for what it is.
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Agreed. Wrangler sales are going to take a beating if Ford can build enough of these. It will be interesting to see if Wrangler resale remains as strong as it's been recently.
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07-06-2021, 12:40 PM | #291 |
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Wranglers are junk and that never seems to deter sales from the market segment that purchases these vehicles. I would stay clear of any new model Ford but after a few years I imagine the reliability of this would be no worse than Jeep's and possibly even better. I do agree that these could get played out once the market saturates but that's years away.
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The cool thing Ford is doing, if you want the Sasquatch package it is available on all trim levels. Jeep makes customers pay up for the Rubicon to get 35in tires, lockers, etc. Last edited by hellrotm; 07-06-2021 at 12:59 PM.. |
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Ford recently set an email to order holders that stated due to commodity availability, it will be manufacturing non-customer-orders, but Ford has not yet clarified how that affects dealer stock units. Ford originally stated it was fulfilling all customer orders (up to March 19th) before dealership stock units would be built. |
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07-06-2021, 01:31 PM | #294 | |
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Initial reports from real owners indicate the Bronco is a high quality product. * Most BMW owners are scared shitless to own a Bimmer past the warranty period. So inferring Ford makes a poor quality product seems a bit unsubstantiated coming from a BMW owner. |
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07-06-2021, 01:55 PM | #296 | |
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I feel once Ford irons out the wrinkles these vehicles should be more reliable than Wranglers but time will tell. |
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Anyway, my brother has owned several trouble free Fords over the past 20 years. Surveys put Ford in the industry average quality range, usually ranking a few spots ahead of BMW. Were your BMWs first-year models? My E90 is a first-year model and has been a great car. IMO, in the modern manufacturing age, the whole first-year crap is... just that, crap. |
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So, if you were looking for one as more or less a DD (with the occasional MTB trip), WITH MT(nom-negotiable), what would you go with?
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An F250 is a work truck regardless of price. I have a friend who traded in a Range Rover for a Chevy Suburban because the Rover was in the shop so often. The N52 had cam phaser issues too, but it sounds cool... VANOS. I had a BMW dealership tell me my 23,000-mile E86 needed $1,200 of new rear suspension parts because it wasn't possible to align the rear end; they were fishing for a CarMax warranty they thought I had. I can go on if you'd like...
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Black Diamond. My 2-door is $38K
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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A Rover for a suburban? Yeah, different worlds. Four Seasons vs Holiday inn. No thanks. For record, we have had 0 issues with our Rovers. But buy a warranty and get a nice loaner vs Ford in shop for a month and no loaner though we didn't need one. |
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Yeah, everyone knows that. Thanks but whats your point? Ford couldn't make JLR profitable but Tata could. I have no concern for the supposed "reputation" of Rover. I go by my experiences and those around me not what JD power and the media want me to believe.
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My point is Rovers have a reputation for poor reliability. |
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