04-25-2019, 03:21 PM | #23 |
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This little engine is delicious. A future 4-cyl M car in the works that returns BMW to their roots.
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04-25-2019, 03:38 PM | #24 |
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I imagine they might combine w a high output electric motor in combo ...💥 low end torque issues solved 💪🏽
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Well how 'bout that. Now let's see the dyno graph. Pure lag below 5k probably. no power... no power... a little power... a little power... a lit.. TOO MUCH POWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!
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"...In the meantime, components like the ignition distributor, fan, wet sump and boost valve have since disappeared from the engine. There is no longer a direct charge air pipe, which supplies the engine with compressed air without any cooling. Instead, the P48 has a sophisticated dry sump system. The oil required for lubrication purposes within the engine is extracted immediately without any oil being lost through splashes. Another part of this system is the oil tank, which is directly attached to the engine. Efficient charge air cooling also allows for increased performance and efficiency. A consistent minimisation of friction losses, such as through the aforementioned oil system and the use of high temperature-resistant components that do not require cooling by the fuel, make the P48 one of the most efficient BMW race engines of this day and age. BMW Turbo engines guarantee maximum sportiness. "
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It's a DTM motor Only F82 ( based on ) platform BMW is running in DTM so far as I know of
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Looks amazing! They can stick one in the next gen M2!
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If you think it looks insane on the outside, you should have a look at the engine. This 1977 320 Turbo used a massively turbocharged 2.0-liter Formula 2 M12 powerplant. BMW figured these things to be putting out 650 hp, pretty outrageous for a four-cylinder, even today. These engines spurred on the development of BMW's turbocharged F1 cars of the 1980s, and the technological arms race that ensued is legendary.
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It's not mechanical, it's direct injection. It's been written by a PR person who has no idea what they are talking about.
I see a big turbo one side and a small turbo the other side, so it's either a staged system or it's compound, depending on how it's hooked up. Either the small turbo gives the low down grunt and the big turbo takes over at higher rpm, or the big one pumps into the small one for very high boost levels. Our funnybike uses the second method (compounding) and makes 900hp out of 1500cc. All that guff about space rockets and the charge air pipe, boost valve and fan being deleted is just nonsense. You can see these items in the photos. |
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Correction: I meant direct /
Are you SURE it's a twin turbo ?? I dont think so The similarities between the two engines; the original M121 engine from 1969 and the P48 from 2019; are obvious. Both are 2.0 liter inline four-cylinder engines, both have single turbochargers and both have fuel injection. However, that's really where the similarities end. Type: P48, R4 turbo engine with direct fuel injection Capacity: 1,999 cc Weight: 85 kg (basic weight, according to regulations) Bore: between 86 and 90 mm Engine speed: max. 9,500 rpm Power output: over 600 hp Service life: over 6,000 km (per season) Fuel mass flow restrictor: mandatory 95 kg/h, 100 kg/h with push-to-pass activated The turbo charger in the P48 supplies the engine with 400 litres of air per second – 3,500 times as much as a human breathes. The pistons accelerate from zero to 100 km/h in less than a thousandth of a second – 1,200 times faster than a lunar rocket. The water pump shifts roughly 18,000 litres per hour. This is fast enough to fill a bath tub in roughly 20 seconds. 1,005 drawings were made for the final assembly of the engine, which consists of roughly 2,000 individual parts. Laid next to each other, they would cover the floor of a 250 sqm apartment.
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except the 2 series part becoming a CSL ... since the 2er isn't raced in DTM...adding to that the original CSL was developed for the ETCC, and campaigned in IMSA GT, and Group5 for example. It is by no means a GT car. The 2 has no comparable motor sports lineage. BMW is a stickler for heritage and homage to its racing roots. So it only makes sense that any true CSL car should be birthed from a current DTM based car. Aka the M4. But nowadays... you just never know. Not hating. Just 2 cents. But it's not up to us...we'll just have to wait and see where it all goes. 🚆 I still suspect that whatever it's body - the next CSL will have a combo motor of electric and petrol.
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Creating the " SAV" was against tradition. Refusing to build an SUV became a new tradition that ended this year with the X7. M motors carried an S designation. " M motors have individual throttle bodies" used to be a thing. Open deck ? Closed Deck ? M3 meant 2 door coupe. Now that's M4 and the M3 30 JAHRE is a 4 door sedan. Odd numbers are sedans and even number are for coupes. Well. Except for gran coupe. The six series was a coupe for decades and then added 2 doors and became a gran coupe and then now it's a 5 door hatch. We will not make an M from the 1 series. We will not make a Z4M .. We will not make an M3 sedan because M3 is for coupe only. Except E36M3/4. Never mind we don't want to cannibalize M5.. so no E46 M3 .. sedan oh wait .. fans were mad last generation .. let's make an E9X model ... DTM Mirrors .. Became M mirrors and were that way for decades .. but suddenly weren't a thing according to BMW for the M2 .. oh wait ,.. fans mad .. Etc etc. I'm so used to BMW double speak, I include it as a second language in job applications. Heck they still may roll out an F87 M2 CSL along with an M2 racing model program to replace the M235 racing in the next year .. |
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Like I said ... we will see. My CCA join date was 1987, Jahre as well ...
so I hear what you're saying .. except that the fact still remains that there is zero connection between a 2er ( a recently made, more affordable street car invented for a broader audience $ ) and true DTM, Homologation Type, or Touring Car Championships Type Cars. I beg to differ with all due respect regarding BMWs POV on heritage and respecting their own roots... in fact they are aiming hard in this direction. Looking at their liveries looking at the new p48, heck looking everywhere it's evident. Brings some more weight to the phrase : #respectyourelders"
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Low number...glad there are CCA Members here older than me ! Much 🙏🏼 respect and Nice to meet you. Stay fast. 🚆 (LA/SD/ Hawaii chapters )
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2.5 bar on a petrol engine sounds great..
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I wasn't expecting much from the rules change from 8 to 4 cylinders. But watching a couple videos of testing, they sound really good. Although it is odd to hear a 4 cylinder Aston Martin.
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well to be honest they all sound like a bike engine pretty much... can be better in real donno..
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