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Actually the 4.9 Seconds stand for 0-100km/h not for 0-60mph, and also the M Coupe does the 0-100km/h in the same time, so taking what you sail its also a fail
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i have driven and owned both, n55 has less lag than n54 and n55 is actually a more technologically advanced engine. there is a quicker spool up intake that you get with a twin-scroll system, even though it is only "one" turbo. n55 is actually a "smoother" engine.
But the N54 has easier tuning options especially for max power output.
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And note the entire suspension has been tuned around this tyre. Thinking of ditching those run-flats? Should have bought a 125i!
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"It was possible to leave out the centre silencer..."
Now I know how they shaved 20 kg's off of the current weight of the 135i N55 Hatch: 1,510 kg Coupe: 1,530 kg Surely shaving off a boot reduces weight? Is there a 7th airbag they're not telling us about? |
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Im not trying to start a fight with you, im just telling you that in stock forms even tough N55 gets lower Dynos it performs better and is faster than a N54 and also has less lag. As you can see i own a 1M Coupe which is powered by the N54 but im being honest, with that being said, in stock forms the N55 is the best engine. Now getting into what the techs told me it wasn't chilean BMW techs as we both know they don't even know what the correct fluids to put a in car, they are a mess! I was told that by BMW USA techs.
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Sorry for starting the N54 vs. N55 debate again, see it would be helpful if BMW could just conveniently post all the data so we could all know for sure.
Empirically I think its safe to say two turbos is *always* better than one, you can design for lag etc. but it is way more expensive so that is why you get it in the M5 but not in the M135i. That said, this car sounds well matched for its level/purpose.. you can accept 1 turbo in this car, but if they went with a similar setup for the M3, I think a lot of people would not accept that. |
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Car and driver compared both and found almost no difference but 0-60 slightly better on N55. This wasn't our N54 but they preferred N55. I have driven 2011 335i 6mt and with N55 and throttle response seems more immediate but the surge from 1M N54 stronger. We need to face the fact that the cars are getting faster and pretty soon the N55 will be a better motor than ours but as long as any college girl can buy an automatic
135iM it will not be as cool as the harder edged 1M IMO. |
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Anyone bashing the N55 has probably never driven it, when I bought my car I had the option of picking up an N54 or ordering an N55 and waiting and there's a reason I chose to wait to have this engine. |
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and if bmw is quoting a 0-62 time of 4.9 sec, you know the car mags will get 0-60 in 4.5-4.7. pretty damn impressive.
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Audi claims 0-100km/h or 0-62.1mph in 4.6. seems like jprooney is less bad ass than he feels... |
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yes, but often 0-60mph is significantly quicker than 0-100kmh b/c many cars hit an extra upshift right around 60. So we'd have to look at the top gear speed to answer that question...
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Even if it is a good or maybe a very good car for most situations, this M135i is clearly a half hearted attempt, more a marketing study without the passion to make it a great car. I don't know others but for me it is slightly disappointing. In fact, I am just hoping that new M3 and M2 will be crafted with a different vision. For the time being my choice among the new 1 series would still be a 125d. It would deserve the price tag much better and do the job equally good. Not arguing with anyone, I am a fan of small BMWs since the 2002 times and my first car that I paid myself was a 318ti, so in a way I like them all but I also expect them to be better with every generation not vice versa. Last edited by ozinaldo; 05-14-2012 at 11:31 PM.. |
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