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ahh, how to respond... well, let's go bit by bit.

Originally Posted by footie

The problem with the States is their arrogance to all things environmental

Well, Europe's problem is their arrogance in thinking they're better than everyone. want to make a stupid comment, i'll respond with an equally stupid one. before you start running your mouth talking about the US's arrogance, why don't you look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by footie

The majority don't think that the world's well being has anything to do with them. (Sorry but this it the truth)

I would LOVE to see any sort of polling or citation for this comment. on the other hand, let's look at some real numbers:

According to Rasmussen Polling, "64% of voters think global warming is at least a somewhat serious problem, with 41% saying it is Very Serious."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...arming_dangers

According to Gallup's polling numbers: "Six in 10 Americans indicate that they are highly worried about global warming, including 34% who are worried 'a great deal' and 26% "a fair amount.'"

Now, i'll admit that the numbers presented in the article are down from previous years, however, your argument that "a majority" don't think the world's well being has anything to do with them is clearly wrong.

additionally, keep in mind that these numbers are being posted after one of the COLDEST winters in decades. don't believe me, check here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=winte...ient=firefox-a

Now, let's keep going:

Originally Posted by footie

The US produce more greenhouse gases than anyone else, probably close to a quarter.

WRONG -

check here: http://www.greenbiz.com/news/2009/02...2-rise-exports

and here: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/clim...a-energy_N.htm

Originally Posted by footie

There has to be a shift in their thinking and adopt these exciting new engine concept or fosel [sic] fuels will be a thing of past and California will be under 10ft of water due to the melting of the polar ice caps which wouldn't actual be a bad idea. No more Sticky.

Now, to say that these new engines aren't exciting is missing my point. my point is that given that in the US, BMW is a luxury car manufacturer first, and a performance car manufacturer second, these engines aren't likely to appear in the US for some time. that's not to say that a budget Z2 or 1 series won't see them, but that they'll show up in the next gen 3 series sold stateside is probably not going to happen. hell, we can't get a turbo 4-cylinder, or a proper diesel (that's affordable to the masses - 335d is quite proper). this is just MY opinion, based on my observations of people's purchasing tastes (lots of 525's and 528's in my area, and those must be DOGS to drive, since my wife's 328i is peppy, and my X3 3.0si is, too - but they have far superior power/weigh ratios than the 5's).

I will admit there is skepticism in the US relating to global warming, and whether it's a man-assisted phenomenon, or whether we are just undergoing a cyclical change in weather patterns. however, considering the fact that there isn't even universal agreement between climateologists or other scientists, i'll stay away from Al Gore's Kool-Aid until there's some more research done.