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      08-16-2017, 05:05 AM   #1
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Driver door/window creak

Greetings my window from the driver side creeks/squeeks....something inbetween ,i have used rubber care on all of the seals ....what should i do ???
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Gummi pflege on the felt part of the door seal worked for me.
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Will try.....i hope it will work!
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noise stops when i roll down the window 1mm
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noise is gone
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Noise starting to come back little by little,i have acquired sonax gummi pflege which i plan to use on the vehicle some time this week

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I had the same problem with windows on driver and passenger doors.
Cleaned and lubed all the door seals...no change.
Then i also noticed that it would go away when the windows were a bit opened.
So i gave the windown seals some silicone spray ( especially between the seals at the top of the window)
Noise is completely gone now. Easy fix once you locate it
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I would try anything right now just to get rid of the noise
Hopefully it will work snd it wont come back...
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I had the same problem with windows on driver and passenger doors.
Cleaned and lubed all the door seals...no change.
Then i also noticed that it would go away when the windows were a bit opened.
So i gave the windown seals some silicone spray ( especially between the seals at the top of the window)
Noise is completely gone now. Easy fix once you locate it

I have read on another forum and some say that it might be the felt at the top of the door.....might it also be the case here? If yes there will be a gummi pflege orgy on that damn felt seal!

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I have gummi pfleged the shit out of the seals.....hopefully it is gone when i go drive it
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They are a bit better now but there stil is a bt of sound,should i add more?
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I have read on another forum and some say that it might be the felt at the top of the door.....might it also be the case here? If yes there will be a gummi pflege orgy on that damn felt seal!
I have heard that too. But i only applied to the seals around the windows. And mine is completely quiet now.
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maybe i didnt apply it correctly i use a gummi pflege that has a stick thing that gets the liquid onto the seals.....it is not a pulverizer
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Any ideas? Thoughts?
No idea what you mean: when exactly does it creak? No framed windows either. So a thought: is it the glass on the seals or the motor (struggling to complete) in fact? In the latter case a review of the manual, in particular page 39, "Closing without the anti-trap mechanism" could be helpful. That is, if it creaks when closed, make sure it's closed completely.
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the window creaks if i have it fully closed while driving on bad roads or when turning in an angle at slow speeds,if i move down the window by 1 mm the sound goes away.After lubing all the seals that touch the window the noise went away and then it came back bit by bit.I have made a video with the sound today....if there is a way to post it here i shall...i think the noise is clear enough
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No idea what you mean: when exactly does it creak? No framed windows either. So a thought: is it the glass on the seals or the motor (struggling to complete) in fact? In the latter case a review of the manual, in particular page 39, "Closing without the anti-trap mechanism" could be helpful. That is, if it creaks when closed, make sure it's closed completely.

by "Closing without the anti-trap mechanism" do you mean closing while continuously holding the finger on the window button? I do not do that but i do always give it an extra click after it has automatically fully closed itself...may that be the problem?
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by "Closing without the anti-trap mechanism" do you mean closing while continuously holding the finger on the window button? I do not do that but i do always give it an extra click after it has automatically fully closed itself...may that be the problem?
I mean it could be the anti-trap mechanism, like your seals went hard and make resistance... Not the case if the sound is absent at stand still. But the point of closing really fully persists. The procedure of deactivating the anti-trap is as described in the manual referenced - do I have to quote it (there are two steps)? I never tried it myself, just read on a local forum about some window "initialization" procedure to make it work correctly after it started to fail. May be the older, first generation (E##).

The car is quite smart regarding windows in particular: my experience with frozen (frameless) windows in winter is amazing. It does appear to try to lower the glass on its own(!) while the door is open and is being warmed to defrost (I hardly believe it, but I did seem to notice ).
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As far as i can tell the sound is absent when not moving
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As far as i can tell the sound is absent when not moving
This does not eliminate the motor issue completely... When you have the window lowered it's not fixed as well as when fully closed (thus more prone to make a friction sound shaking) but no sound you say - this might mean the car fails to detect if the window is fully closed when it should be (you say you use automatic closing) and tries to adjust, unlike when you have just stopped it somewhere in between - try to avoid using the automatic closing and hold the switch instead. Listen carefully to detect where the noise comes from: the frame or the door below.
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I have played with the window and i cannot seem to find anything wrong with it.....i have video....the question is how do i post it here? I also made photos of the seals
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i have not touched the felt seals though
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