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      09-11-2012, 09:21 AM   #1
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Rust on seat base

There are reports of wide spread of rust under the front seat frame on F20 in China and Hong Kong.









A number of F20s are affected, including 2011 made and 2012 made F20.

The parts affected is part 1 in the diagram:


http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...57&hg=52&fg=10
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      09-11-2012, 09:25 AM   #2
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Oh no..... My car juz one week old and already I hv to worry...
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      09-11-2012, 09:37 AM   #3
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My car will arrive at the end of this month and i am expecting it will also suffered from this problem.....
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      09-12-2012, 01:06 AM   #4
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wonder if this happen in Europe also...
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      09-12-2012, 02:16 AM   #5
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omg that doesn't look good. I'll have a look on mine. I was actually looking under the seat the other day searching for a lost item. Think I should have noticed if it looked like that.
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      09-12-2012, 04:50 AM   #6
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F20 owners around the world, please check under your seatframe!

It's a very serious issue here in hong kong and china. Most of the 2012 production cars have this problem. Rust will weaken the seat frame structure prematurely, essentially becomes hazardous when stress is applied to it. ( for example in an accident). Hopefully BMW will have a recall bulletin on this for a replacement soon.
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      09-12-2012, 11:13 AM   #7
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F20 owners around the world, please check under your seatframe!

It's a very serious issue here in hong kong and china. Most of the 2012 production cars have this problem. Rust will weaken the seat frame structure prematurely, essentially becomes hazardous when stress is applied to it. ( for example in an accident). Hopefully BMW will have a recall bulletin on this for a replacement soon.
Hi.... Here in the Uk i have just checked mine, a 2012 F20 SE with Sports seats... Rust is there alright... Not as bad as the example shown here but on the way... Strangely though, the passenger seat is fine...

I have already approached my dealer and the car is booked in later this Month so as they can take a better look...
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      09-12-2012, 12:40 PM   #8
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I also have rust on my July 12 M Sport..

Will be speaking to my dealer shortly!!
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      09-12-2012, 01:01 PM   #9
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      09-12-2012, 01:15 PM   #10
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Hi.... Here in the Uk i have just checked mine, a 2012 F20 SE with Sports seats... Rust is there alright... Not as bad as the example shown here but on the way... Strangely though, the passenger seat is fine...

I have already approached my dealer and the car is booked in later this Month so as they can take a better look...
Hi Airblade, please report back what dealers in the UK will do about this.
it's still a bit uncertain here..

thx!
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      09-12-2012, 03:11 PM   #11
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I'm from the UK and have rust on both the driver and passenger seat bases. My car is March 2012 Build 118i M Sport.

I'll let you know what my dealer says when I have a chat with them in the morning.
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      09-13-2012, 01:20 PM   #12
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checked today mine 118i feb 2012... no rust in Holland
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      09-13-2012, 02:27 PM   #13
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Called a dealer today (not the one I purchased the car from) and spoke to them about it; they didn't seem remotely worried or surprised.

It's booked in for the 5th October (earliest they could get it in with a hire car which costs 15).. Would be good to hear from other people on how they get on!

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      09-13-2012, 10:59 PM   #14
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Called the dealer in Hong Kong. He heard abt it but there is no recall notice from the company. He said will let me know as soon as he hear anything. He said I could address this issue during my 1st service...
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      09-13-2012, 11:23 PM   #15
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Called the dealer in Hong Kong. He heard abt it but there is no recall notice from the company. He said will let me know as soon as he hear anything. He said I could address this issue during my 1st service...
With the high temp & very high humidity in Hong Kong, it'll just accelerates the spread of rust. I have to put dehumidifying packs on every seat of my 635, just to keep the mold from forming. I think conditions like what we have here in HK can't be replicated in Germany, thus underestimating the severity of the problem.
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      09-14-2012, 01:51 AM   #16
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I actually dun dare to look underneath the seats and pretend nth happened....
Just wait until the 1st service and ask them to take care of it if there is any....
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      09-14-2012, 12:42 PM   #17
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F20 125i, built on march 31th (Regensburg plant). I checked my car and the rust is already here on both driver and passenger front seats !!! This is really a shame for BMW . This rust should appears very easily. My car is day and night in a closed garage. I live in Paris area (mostly dry and not so hot weather).

I don't think that this issue is that important. Do anyone knows if a similar defect has been observed on the F30 model ?

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      09-14-2012, 02:31 PM   #18
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I have found this post. It seems that the F30 is also affected:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=726583

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235 - 249 - 255 - 258 - 2LP - 2VL - 3AG - 430 - 441 - 493 - 4AE - 508 - 520 - 521 - 534 - 544 - 575 - 5AD - 5DA - 5DC - 609 - 612 - 614 - 615 - 616 - 654 - 6AA - 6AB - 6NF - 6NL - 6VA - 7VA - 6WA - 8TH - B39 - BDAT
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      09-14-2012, 11:30 PM   #19
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Not only the seats, but all around the car, bmw have to recall F20 for sure!










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      09-15-2012, 01:51 AM   #20
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And the F30.....
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F20 125i MT - April 2012

235 - 249 - 255 - 258 - 2LP - 2VL - 3AG - 430 - 441 - 493 - 4AE - 508 - 520 - 521 - 534 - 544 - 575 - 5AD - 5DA - 5DC - 609 - 612 - 614 - 615 - 616 - 654 - 6AA - 6AB - 6NF - 6NL - 6VA - 7VA - 6WA - 8TH - B39 - BDAT
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      09-15-2012, 08:21 AM   #21
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Well, it seems that this issue affects not only the F20, maybe all BMW production. I hope that some officials from BMW reads this forum. Here is my opinion:

As everyone knows, the quality of a car is directly related to the quality of its parts provided by other companies. When one buys a BMW, one supposes that these part are from premium quality. That is why he accepts to pay more than 30 thousands euros.

I will try to resume the main issues found on the F20:

1- Rear shockabsorbers rattling (I did not face this problem):
Reason: Badly designed parts made in Poland
2- Air conditioning malfunction
Reason: (may be ?) Compressor are not of Japanese made by Denso...I am not concerned, I have the Denso compressor.
3-Rust appearing on seat and maybe more.
Reason: (may be) BMW buys cheaper steel from eastern europe countries. I don't think that the german #1 steel producer (Thyssen) makes such basic mistakes. Don't forget that ten years before, russian companies did not knew what is a galvanized steel.

Of course, this is only my opinion but for me it is quite obvious that BMW is trying to lower as much as possible the car cost, saving 10 euros here and 5 euros there. This is really a very very bad policy for a premium car maker.

This is the first time I bought a BMW. Maybe it will be the last. Of course BMW has very Brilliant engines but the other components must be also of very high quality.

Before owning a BMW, I have always bought japanese cars made in Japan (not in the UK or Turkey), Mainly from Mazda and Toyota. I never have had any problem with these car, always 100% reliable, even at very large mileage.

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      09-15-2012, 10:17 AM   #22
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Just checked mine (116i SE with standard seats, built Aug-12) and there are definitely some rust patches starting to appear.
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