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      06-10-2012, 05:26 PM   #1
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Arrow F21 3-door 1 series hatchback at the Welt

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      06-16-2012, 03:31 PM   #2
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      06-18-2012, 01:09 PM   #3
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Is there any news about 120 d xDrive F21 or f 20. When is this released??
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      06-18-2012, 01:28 PM   #4
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Is there any news about 120 d xDrive F21 or f 20. When is this released??

November I think.

I think if found looking at prices, is that neither 135i or 120d with xdrive is going to have the auto box as an option....is that possible?

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BMW 114i 3 puertas 21.900 euros
BMW 116i 3 puertas 23.100 euros / Automático 25.250 euros
BMW 118i 3 puertas 26.000 euros / Automático 28.150 euros
BMW 125i 3 puertas 30.250 euros / Automático 32.400 euros
BMW M135i 3 puertas 39.850 euros / Automático 42.170 euros
BMW M135i xDrive 3 puertas 44.000 euros
BMW 116d 3 puertas 25.200 euros / Automático 27.350 euros
BMW 116d ED 3 puertas 25.200 euros
BMW 118d 3 puertas 26.350 euros / Automático 28.500 euros
BMW 120d 3 puertas 28.500 euros euros / Automático 30.650 euros
BMW 120d xDrive 3 puertas 30.500 euros
BMW 125d 3 puertas 32.750 euros / Automático 34.900 euros
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      06-18-2012, 01:33 PM   #5
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Late may BMW announced the xDrive for the 120D and the M135i will be available beginning November 2012. Its already in the pricelists.

German prices, dated May 28th 2012:

F21:
120d rwd, manual - 28500€ (automatic + 2150€ / sport 2320€)
120d xDrive manual only - 30500€

M135i
M135i rwd sport automatic - 42170€ (manual 39850€)
M135i xDrive sport automatic only - 44000€

F20: Add 750€.
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      06-18-2012, 05:26 PM   #6
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Late may BMW announced the xDrive for the 120D and the M135i will be available beginning November 2012. Its already in the pricelists.

German prices, dated May 28th 2012:

F21:
120d rwd, manual - 28500€ (automatic + 2150€ / sport 2320€)
120d xDrive manual only - 30500€

M135i
M135i rwd sport automatic - 42170€ (manual 39850€)
M135i xDrive sport automatic only - 44000€

F20: Add 850€.
120xd only manual?! well, gonna no longer have discussion wether to choose it with the automatic box or not...
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      06-18-2012, 11:39 PM   #7
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Yeah, at least according to the current german price list. Btw: Noticed a small error, F20 is just 750€ extra, not 850€.
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      06-19-2012, 04:01 AM   #8
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interesting that that car only has 16" wheels on it!
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      06-19-2012, 04:07 AM   #9
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Which one? The blue in the first post has clearly the 18" M wheels
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      06-19-2012, 04:18 AM   #10
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Which one? The blue in the first post has clearly the 18" M wheels
they clearly are- however on the close up, the R18 looks like an R16- just bad lighting i guess
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      06-19-2012, 07:02 AM   #11
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they clearly are- however on the close up, the R18 looks like an R16- just bad lighting i guess
I've noticed that 18" on the F20 don't seem to fill out the wheel arches as much as on other small cars e.g. Golf GTI. Is it that it's not lowered as much?
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      06-19-2012, 08:53 AM   #12
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interesting that that car only has 16" wheels on it!
The F20 116i I took the above pics at the Welt, did indeed have 18 wheels. I think 16's are standard though. This is the same wheel setup that comes on the M135i (F20). Here is a close up of those 18" tires. Btw... BMW has gone to a 225/245 staggered tire size. No more oddball 215's on the front!
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I've noticed that 18" on the F20 don't seem to fill out the wheel arches as much as on other small cars e.g. Golf GTI. Is it that it's not lowered as much?
I think the 18" wheels look quite good and fill out the wheel wells just fine.

I took these photos at the AMI car show in Leipzig a few weeks ago...


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[quote=Dackelone;12181252]I think the 18" wheels look quite good and fill out the wheel wells just fine.

Yes but not like:


Might just be the different wheels but the Golf looks 'lower' to me.
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Anyone who knows when we can expect the M 135i in the configurator?
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Standing next to one it doesn't come across as needing to be lower.. Think it's the pictures
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      07-23-2012, 02:41 PM   #18
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F2x backup camera... in bumper!

Someone asked me what that hole on the rear of the F2x bumper was. I thought it must have been one of the PDC sensors knocked into the bumper cover.

Well... I recently had the chance to go back to the Welt to see the very same 118d F21 on display and sure enough(!) its a back up camera. I was wrong!

I don't know why BMW does stupid stuff like this... they put the back up cameras under the BMW emblem or above the lic plate on their other cars. I guess oone needs to buy a 6er in order to have teh camera hidden under the emblem!

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Late may BMW announced the xDrive for the 120D and the M135i will be available beginning November 2012. Its already in the pricelists.

German prices, dated May 28th 2012:

F21:
120d rwd, manual - 28500€ (automatic + 2150€ / sport 2320€)
120d xDrive manual only - 30500€

M135i
M135i rwd sport automatic - 42170€ (manual 39850€)
M135i xDrive sport automatic only - 44000€

F20: Add 750€.
Do those prices include the tax? and how much is the tax on cars in europe (Germany specifically)
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