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      05-13-2012, 03:09 AM   #45
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      05-13-2012, 04:03 AM   #46
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The car looks great!! and I'm pretty sure this car will beat the 1M Coupe in most aspects.
We just need a little more info on specs
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      05-13-2012, 06:08 AM   #47
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They're releasing an 114i? Isn't the 116i already underpowered enough?!
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1-series in the US?

The rationale for not importing the F 20/F 21 into the US is rather unclear. The offensive notion that due rampant obesity the american buyer would find it difficult to get into the new 1-series can surely not be valid!

I find the M135i xDrive particularly interesting with superb performance on any surface combined with extremely favourable mpg!
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      05-13-2012, 08:03 AM   #50
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Awesome news for the 1 series
I love the fact that M135i is available with 3 or 5 doors, with RWD or x-drive but the most important thing: without run-flats!
Is the x-drive available for 125i/d?
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      05-13-2012, 08:24 AM   #51
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this is by far the most UGLY car BMW has ever produced. This entire new 1 Series line. Just ugly.

Those of you who think otherwise are just fooling yourself. Come on, look at it!
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      05-13-2012, 08:29 AM   #52
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So is this basically a way to charge more for the is models?
Add the M tax on is models
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This body style will not show up in the US because the market for a high end small hatchback is too small here. I think it is very likely this package will show up when the coupe version appears in North America.
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What is the purpose of 114i when it has the same emissions and fuel consumption with that of 116i?? Better price vs less performance? What BMW should be looking into is better performance + better price.
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Cool car, especially the 3-door in estoril blue. Does it have LSD?
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the headlights could look better if BMW extend them towards the kidney grills like this :

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i don't know if you noticed BMW quotes this M135i automatic faster than the 1M from 0 to 60 :

1M : 0-60 mph ( 0-96 kph ) in 4.9 s
M135i : 0-100 kph in 4.9 s
No, 1M official stats. on 0-100 km/h is 4.9, 0-60 mph is 4.7. So the AT M135i is quoted identical with a 1M (manual) from factory not faster. Totally stock 1Ms are easily doing 0-100 km/h around 4.5 to 4.7 according to numerous tests, no slower and with minor upgrades like better tires (Michelin PSS etc.) they sure do even faster.

Just for clarification.

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      05-13-2012, 11:46 AM   #58
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The car looks great!! and I'm pretty sure this car will beat the 1M Coupe in most aspects.
We just need a little more info on specs
Another 1M owner from Santiago, cool

Why are you sure about that I wonder, what frustrated you about the 1M?

Just curious to learn.
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Another 1M owner from Santiago, cool

Why are you sure about that I wonder, what frustrated you about the 1M?

Just curious to learn.
Hi how are you? Im not frustraded or anything like that. But im realistic the N55 matted with the DCT gearbox is amazingly fast! Also i have been reading info on this car for a lot of time and many say that on internal tests it is as fast as the 1M if not faster. Personally I love hactbacks! but nothing against the 1M!

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Hi how are you? Im not frustraded or anything like that. But im realistic the N55 matted with the DCT gearbox is amazingly fast! Also i have been reading info on this car for a lot of time and many say that on internal tests it is as fast as the 1M if not faster. Personally I love hactbacks! but nothing against the 1M!

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+1 about the hatchbacks, I love them too. That's one thing I love about this new car, its versatility. I couldn't like the looks yet though, especially from front and this is despite the gorgeous blue color.

Another plus is a xdrive alternative, now that version with a auto box can be faster than a 1M at least in a drag race due to huge launch advantages (where 1M is weakest) plus it will be a much safer and weather proof car.

The interior is better quality too. So lots of things to like about this car indeed.

On the other hand, since I love the cartoonish bulldog looks of the 1M plus I always prefer a good manual to any automatic, it may not be my cup of tea.

With an open differential and an intermediate level of sporty suspension this car can not be compared to a 1M or a M3 in the chassis/handling department where it matters most for a M car anyway. But most drivers will not care about that too.

My initial impression is BMW made it right by calling it a M135i (a tone below a real M car if that's the intention) which will give it a broader customer appeal and options that are not available in cars like 1M which are destined for a narrower customer (enthusiast) profile, while keeping it fast and efficient. But for people who look for a follower to 1M they need to wait for another 2 years or so for the real deal which will possibly be named a M2. That one has to do better than this "almost-M hatch" and also better than the actual 1M in providing driving fun.

In the meantime I would like to read from serious reviewers how it will fare against great handling fwd or awd hatches like Renault Megane 265 Trophy, VW Golf/Scirocco R or the new Opel/Vauxhall Astra OPC which are direct competitors. This new BMW hatch has more power than those cars, rwd or xdrive and a newer design so it has to reign over existing super hatches first. Then Audi and others will bring more serious rivals.
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Yup, this car look A LOT better with ///M treatment. I kinda like the 1 now.
^^^^^ I fully agreee! The "M" treatment makes all the difference in the world! ^^^^^
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Does it have LSD?
Nope.

(well not a traditional mechanical one)

It does have some sort of useless cheap E-diff thing instead.
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Wish the US was getting the 3 door !
So do I. I think it's a very attractive/sporty little car. It has some very edgy VW Golf elements to its look.
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No, 1M official stats. on 0-100 km/h is 4.9, 0-60 mph is 4.7. So the AT M135i is quoted identical with a 1M (manual) from factory not faster. Totally stock 1Ms are easily doing 0-100 km/h around 4.5 to 4.7 according to numerous tests, no slower and with minor upgrades like better tires (Michelin PSS etc.) they sure do even faster.

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I know unofficial tests showed better 0-60 for the 1M . I guess the same will apply for the AT M135i . looks like both are factory quoted exact same time on 0-60 , the DCT surely helps a lot in the M135i ..
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I am reading the available option for the manual gearbox will be an "eight speed automatic or eight speed sport automatic" so no DCT?
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