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      06-04-2011, 04:14 AM   #287
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      06-04-2011, 05:03 AM   #288
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that's ugly, VW POLO - ugly (BMW Remix)
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      06-04-2011, 05:06 AM   #289
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<-- now blindface instead of coolface because I clawed out my eyes.

Pretty sure BMW design peaked with the E46 M3.

The concept cars are very cool. What makes it into production keeps failing to impress.
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      06-04-2011, 05:10 AM   #290
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Perhaps it will grow on me? But I think its pretty hideous.

Interior is a big set forward though, very nice.

But seriously it looks horrible, front, rear and side.

Front - headlights, whats going on there?

Side - Doesn't look as sporty as the E87

Rear - Looks like a Polo
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      06-04-2011, 05:13 AM   #291
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Okay, so my initial reaction was one of disgust, now I've slept on it - the front doesn't seem so bad, but the back end looks utterly dull. Looking at some of the pics carefully I can see what SCOTT is trying to say about needing to see it in real life to appreciate the look fully.

..infact this shot looks proper good







I'm really not sure how the general population will take to it though,...
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      06-04-2011, 05:24 AM   #292
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this is how general population including myself will say.

what the F*CK is that??

Who designed that box of shit? oh my god................................... I'm officially embarrassed of driving a BMW.
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      06-04-2011, 05:34 AM   #293
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So the new 1 Series won't be sold on the American market, but only here in Europe. Now what would you say when I tell you what we have to pay (in the Netherlands) for this car?

116i 136 pk/220 Nm
210 km/h, 0-100 km/h in 8,5 sec
27.950

118i 170 pk/250 Nm
225 km/h, 0-100 km/h in 7,4 sec
30.750

116d 116 pk/260 Nm
200 km/h, 0-100 km/h in 10,3 sec
29.990

118d 143 pk/320 Nm
212 km/h, 0-100 km/h in 8,9 sec
31.950

120dA 184 pk/380 Nm
228 km/h, 0-100 km/h in 7,2 sec
36.200

So it's official: they don't give us money to drive cars like these ;-)
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      06-04-2011, 05:38 AM   #294
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I think I am different to everyone here. This is a beautiful little car. Really brought the sportiness, youthfulness and presence to the 1er. Great reinterpretation of the 1er hatch. I especially love the new headlights and halo rings and the crease on the kidney grill.

I know I am against everyone here, but well done BMW. Pushing now boundaries with your designs.
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      06-04-2011, 05:40 AM   #295
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http://www.motortrend.com/features/a.../photo_01.html

http://toyobaru.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/773

http://wot.motortrend.com/mercedes-b...ork-65803.html

I will be waiting for these cars to come out, or maybe the new 2 coupe will look different.
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      06-04-2011, 05:50 AM   #296
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Picked my one up yesterday and the salesman told me they had someone looking to order one on Friday. When he went on the system to check availability they were all gone apparently.
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      06-04-2011, 06:10 AM   #297
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This car is very ugly.

Didnt they got rid of Bangle?

Kinda disappointed, was about to trade in my E87 for the F20, but this.....ugh
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      06-04-2011, 06:14 AM   #298
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Okay, so my initial reaction was one of disgust, now I've slept on it - the front doesn't seem so bad, but the back end looks utterly dull. Looking at some of the pics carefully I can see what SCOTT is trying to say about needing to see it in real life to appreciate the look fully.

..infact this shot looks proper good







I'm really not sure how the general population will take to it though,...
I slept on it and it still looks like shit!

When they have a car that looks like shit; they always tell you..."You have to see it in person, it will grow on you"

It's just like the previous gen 5 series (Dame Edna front), the last gen Z4. BMW royally fucked up on this car!

The worst part, is some people will buy it and the board will think that it's somewhat of a success... it may be, but it's a flippin embarrassment. What they don't get, is that people can expect average design from other average price/quality car manufactures... But BMW fans & most customers looking at BMW don't expect "Average" from BMW.

They can call this one ... "The Ultimate Ugly Driving Machine".

Take notice; when a car looks good... most don't need convincing or "U must see it in real life"; The 1M, BMW 3 series & M3, the New 5, New 7, the X5... look good or great in pictures, even better in real life!
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      06-04-2011, 06:17 AM   #299
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You have to be an extreme bmw fanboy to ignore the epic ugliness of this car.
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      06-04-2011, 06:20 AM   #300
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This


Or this


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Walter da Silva -> 3 Point Shot from center court
Adrian van Hooydonk -> did not even hit the rim or the board with this shot
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I hate the antenna so much!!! The older ones are so prettier...
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      06-04-2011, 06:41 AM   #302
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I'd definitely drive this car around on Halloween night just scare to the kids & adults obviously.

The front end has the down syndrome look to it...
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      06-04-2011, 06:45 AM   #303
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It looks like BMW made a common mistake here. They're trying to rebrand the 1 series instead of being a baby BMW to being a "hip" "urban" "young" "piss your parents off" car. This line of thinking has never worked in the history of the auto industry and has resulted in some of the worst vehicles on the face of the planet.

To sum this up BMW is trying to sell to young people having nobody working there that has any clue about young people. The original 1 series hatch to coupe upgrade is a perfect example of how a simple attractive design can be wildly popular. Instead of doing the thing that BMW is good at doing, they have tried to make a VW golf.

This out of touch junk is exactaly the kind of thing that would be crapped out if you hired a semi-truck designer or helicopter manufacturer to design a car. This crap is what happens when BMW designs a car for people they have never met or heard of. It is disgraceful and I am ashamed it exists.

Here's a peice of advice to BMW that I learned from one of the best people I've ever worked with in the auto industry:

"Young people and your average hip folk do not want a wild car. What they want is a car that is not conservative. The difference between a wild car and one that isn't conervative is subtle and mangement often overlooks it, but a wild car is cars like the Aztek in that it is a freak, it's a weirdo. Nobody likes that. A car that is not conservative is edgy enough but not weird."
Very well said
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Scott... you just work for BMW. Nobody is expecting you to say its ugly.

I happen to like all BMW designs, and I always found it so weird when they bash BMW designs I even find the X1, 5GT hot! but this 1er is just ugly. I mean I flipped all the pictures to find some nice angles, sadly I couldn't... I don't care how much time they spent time designing the inside of the headlight or its lines... the first thing anybody sees is the headlights and they are so fucked up... Congrats BMW you now have 2 shitty cars... this new hatch and the older X3
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I think it looks good.
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      06-04-2011, 07:18 AM   #306
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For the LCI the headlights need to lose 1-1.5" in height with the grilles losing the same in height and widening by about the same. The proportions are just off enough that it really upsets the front end.

With the above changes and a coupe profile (as much as I like hatches the 1er hatch has always appeared awkward to my eye...) it has some potential. The interior appears to be a step-up.

I'm still praying for a miracle in the F30 given the front of the F20 and how every BMW with electric steering drives.....
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reminds me of..

an Alfa Romeo, and not in a good way.
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