Fifth Gear Web: F20 1 Series Review - BMW 1-Series Forum (F20) 135i

darknightohio · 08-23-2011, 10:16 PM

Gymkhana · 08-24-2011, 04:56 AM

Its INCREDIBLY cool looking/styling/drivin car!!!
From day to day, all my possible inside doubts about the fact I've ordered one being disappeared !!
IRL in would be just brilliant. Tons better than previous one for sure.

Matski · 08-24-2011, 12:32 PM

I'm really getting used to the looks of the front, but the back still is far worse than the E8x generation IMO...

I'm keen to have a nose around one in the flesh, see how cramped the back actually is.

Diver · 08-24-2011, 12:55 PM

As we will not see these in the US, I will simply have to wait for the 2 series.

Remonster · 08-24-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Matski

I'm really getting used to the looks of the front, but the back still is far worse than the E8x generation IMO...

I'm keen to have a nose around one in the flesh, see how cramped the back actually is.

Is there a difference in back seat space between the coupe and hatchback (E82 generation)? I would think they're similar or, if anything, the coupe is even smaller...

So if that's the case, and we know that the new one is bigger, then I don't see what he's talking about because I'm 6'3" and if I adjust my driver's seat so I'm comfortable, I can get in the back behind my own seat and have enough leg room (my head touches the roof but anyone 6'1" or under fits just fine back there). How much space is he expecting to find in a 1 series?

fusion01 · 08-24-2011, 01:03 PM

Some will love the FB / twitter BS, frankly I'd rather be DRIVING my 135i than pissing about with that rubbish, which I can do at home or at work. Fortunately not in my car! This whole interconnectedness is getting quite ridiculous! That was a quick retort, I'll now resume the clip for the main review itself

fusion01 · 08-24-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

As we will not see these in the US, I will simply have to wait for the 2 series.

Consider yourself fortunate! This was beaten badly with the ugly stick!

Venom · 08-24-2011, 01:52 PM

I thought the new 1 series was fwd?

Jason · 08-24-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NurEinser

I thought the new 1 series was fwd?

The F20 1 series hatchback is RWD. There are also 1-series models coming which will be FWD.

See the summary of future 1-series and 2-series vehicle here:
http://f20.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536650

Venom · 08-24-2011, 02:18 PM

Thanks Jason! I had skimmed that article but at the time paid more attention to the design rather than the section on fwd and rwd. My bad!

None of the new 1 series f20/22 are making it to the USA right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Quote:

Originally Posted by NurEinser

I thought the new 1 series was fwd?

The F20 1 series hatchback is RWD. There are also 1-series models coming which will be FWD.

See the summary of future 1-series and 2-series vehicle here:
http://f20.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=536650

Jason · 08-24-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NurEinser

Thanks Jason! I had skimmed that article but at the time paid more attention to the design rather than the section on fwd and rwd. My bad!

None of the new 1 series f20/22 are making it to the USA right?

My pleasure.

The F20 (1-series 5 door hatchback) will not be coming to the US.

The F22 (2-series coupe) and F23 (2-series convertible) will be making it stateside.

Dennis911 · 08-24-2011, 03:03 PM

Please, Mr carreviewer, talk even more about apps, internet, facebook and twitter, because that´s really what I give a crap about when I think about buying a CAR.

DDS2015 · 08-24-2011, 03:39 PM

The diesel gets 60+ mpg! That's crazy good, and way better than any stupid hybrid!

doublevanosrc · 08-24-2011, 04:25 PM

Man i really like it, in that color combo too. Too bad we won't get the F20.

sherman9800 · 08-24-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DDS2015

The diesel gets 60+ mpg! That's crazy good, and way better than any stupid hybrid!

Gotta remember those are imperial gallons. Still really good though when converted. Wish we had more clean diesels in America.

SoCali E90 · 08-24-2011, 04:49 PM

I find it funny how he did not mention 1 thing about the looks of the car. I feel that they were trying to be nice and not make it seem like a terrible review by not mentioning the exterior looks.

SCOTT26 · 08-24-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCali E90

I find it funny how he did not mention 1 thing about the looks of the car. I feel that they were trying to be nice and not make it seem like a terrible review by not mentioning the exterior looks.

or maybe they actually liked the exterior looks?

Since our dealer presentation and training for the F20 in Frankfurt we are being told that it certainly grows on you and that it looks much better in the flesh than on photographs. What they do like is the fact that it is original and is not simply a Golf copy which you cannot say for many other euro-hatches.

bimmerJP · 08-24-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

or maybe they actually liked the exterior looks?

Since our dealer presentation and training for the F20 in Frankfurt we are being told that it certainly grows on you and that it looks much better in the flesh than on photographs. What they do like is the fact that it is original and is not simply a Golf copy which you cannot say for many other euro-hatches.

Agree. I still think this car is ugly, but it is growing on me. Maybe the best way to say this car is that it is not the best looking BMW. I still think the headlights should be a little bit narrower though... That would make this car perfect. Just my opinion.

desertfox73 · 08-24-2011, 07:32 PM

engineering aside...the front end design still reminds me of a storm troopers mask from star wars.

positiveions · 08-24-2011, 07:53 PM

i don't know what to say except not my niche

Hasek9339 · 08-24-2011, 08:25 PM

I wold love if BMW USA was smart enough to bring over diesel 3 or 5 door. I would line up to buy one in a heartbeat!!! I will still line up for a "petrol" version a well!

amdmaxx · 08-24-2011, 09:46 PM

123d coupe or better yet hatch would be cool. I really hope coupe will have styling steaks front and rear to make it look better. Especially front.

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Matski First Lieutenant Drives: E36 328i Sport & E46 320d Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: England Posts: 357 iTrader: (0)	I'm really getting used to the looks of the front, but the back still is far worse than the E8x generation IMO... I'm keen to have a nose around one in the flesh, see how cramped the back actually is. __________________ 3/15 to i8, and everything in between (yep, even including the F07 and F20)

08-24-2011, 12:55 PM	#4
Diver Colonel Drives: Black '12 135i DCT PPK Msport Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2,057 iTrader: (0)	As we will not see these in the US, I will simply have to wait for the 2 series. __________________ See my photography at http://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com

08-24-2011, 01:03 PM	#6
fusion01 Private First Class Drives: Ford Focus ST: 2.5l /5 cyl Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cape Town South Africa Posts: 199 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i / N54 [0.00]	Some will love the FB / twitter BS, frankly I'd rather be DRIVING my 135i than pissing about with that rubbish, which I can do at home or at work. Fortunately not in my car! This whole interconnectedness is getting quite ridiculous! That was a quick retort, I'll now resume the clip for the main review itself __________________ 135i M-Sport: 240kw & 480nm ATW / 6MT / AW / SR / HK Logic 7 / iDrive / Lumbar Support & Seat Heating / BMW Perf Exhaust, Side Skirts, Grilles, Rotors & Gear Knob / CF Mirrors & Boot Spoiler / gunmetal CSL Reps

08-24-2011, 01:52 PM	#8
Venom Major Drives: Teg DC2 + E82 135i Join Date: May 2011 Location: Easy Bay, CA Posts: 1,493 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [4.25]	I thought the new 1 series was fwd? __________________ - Thanks MGallop! Widebody 135i Powered by: Wagner-Tuning & VMR Wheels TheSt\|G - "And if you think the 1M got the N54 for any reason other than to keep it slower/cheaper than the M3 you are delusional."

08-24-2011, 03:03 PM	#12
Dennis911 Enlisted Member Drives: e46 320td Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Germany, Bavaria Posts: 40 iTrader: (0)	Please, Mr carreviewer, talk even more about apps, internet, facebook and twitter, because that´s really what I give a crap about when I think about buying a CAR.

08-24-2011, 03:39 PM	#13
DDS2015 Major Drives: 2011 E90 LCI 328i xdrive Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Winnipeg/Minneapolis Posts: 1,006 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW E90 328 xd ... [0.00]	The diesel gets 60+ mpg! That's crazy good, and way better than any stupid hybrid!

08-24-2011, 04:25 PM	#14
doublevanosrc Loves Runflats. Drives: 2011 135i M Sport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin. Tx Posts: 1,625 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW [0.00] 2011 BMW [0.00]	Man i really like it, in that color combo too. Too bad we won't get the F20. __________________ 2011 135i M Sport manual in Space Graywith Coral Red leather, Harman Kardon, and Ipod -Mods- BMW PPK,3M Tint,OEM Aluminum pedals,CPE Towplate OEM tires for sale http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=746421

08-24-2011, 04:49 PM	#16
SoCali E90 OOOOWEEEEE! Drives: 2011 AW 135i Sedan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Da Valley Posts: 2,859 iTrader: (10)	I find it funny how he did not mention 1 thing about the looks of the car. I feel that they were trying to be nice and not make it seem like a terrible review by not mentioning the exterior looks. __________________

08-24-2011, 07:32 PM	#19
desertfox73 Newbie Drives: 2010 E93 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 235 iTrader: (0)	engineering aside...the front end design still reminds me of a storm troopers mask from star wars. __________________ 2010 Jet Black/Fox Red E93 M3 2008 K1200S (2-wheel)

08-24-2011, 07:53 PM	#20
positiveions Major General Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 9,021 iTrader: (1)	i don't know what to say except not my niche __________________

08-24-2011, 08:25 PM	#21
Hasek9339 Lieutenant Drives: 2009 328i Montego Blue Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 507 iTrader: (1)	I wold love if BMW USA was smart enough to bring over diesel 3 or 5 door. I would line up to buy one in a heartbeat!!! I will still line up for a "petrol" version a well!

08-24-2011, 09:46 PM	#22
amdmaxx My gift Registry: M1 Drives: Future Mowner of Monster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,277 iTrader: (0)	123d coupe or better yet hatch would be cool. I really hope coupe will have styling steaks front and rear to make it look better. Especially front.

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