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| 12-13-2010, 09:14 PM | #1 | |
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From: http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/254523/
Scott26's previous post about the FWD BMWs - http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427654 Confirmation that FWD BMWs will come to USA - http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=438770 * Speculative rendering Article Summary:
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| 12-14-2010, 03:00 AM | #2 | |
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AutoCar: Front-drive BMW 1-series scooped
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| 12-14-2010, 08:47 AM | #3 |
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"Munich insiders have revealed to Autocar plans for a resurrection of the ‘ti’ name on a Golf GTI-challenging performance model running a 220bhp version of BMW’s new turbocharged 2.0-litre engine.
This new model will be used to support a successor to BMW’s upcoming 1-series M Coupé, which is tentatively due to appear in 2013." Does this mean that the 1 Series M Coupe will eventually be FWD? ![]()
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| 12-14-2010, 09:08 AM | #4 |
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Well, since several recent articles and posts here have alluded to the next-gen 1-series coupes and convertibles actually being part of a 2-series lineup, it makes sense that BMW would introduce a lower-level 1-series. I've also read a number of times recently in online and magazine articles that BMW is working on a FWD platform so this makes some sense.
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| 12-14-2010, 09:34 AM | #5 | |
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| 12-14-2010, 09:55 AM | #6 |
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| 12-14-2010, 11:21 AM | #7 | |
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Yay, torque steer on an ///M car!
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| 12-14-2010, 01:39 PM | #8 |
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interesting, would have to keep the price low to compare to similar cars like the GTI, but I like my RWD BMW
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| 12-14-2010, 01:58 PM | #9 |
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VW and Ford watch out... the GTI and Focus ST are going to have some real competition here.
Although both make more power... ///M Variant? I love hot hatches as much as the next guy but... Oh BMW.... how times change... going from high revving NA motors and RWD to FWD and turbos. ![]()
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| 12-14-2010, 02:03 PM | #11 |
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I am actually happy that they choose to keep a RWD variant. I understand the choice offering a FWD car and I was concerned that they would cancel the pretty unique offer of a compact RWD which makes for me all the interrest of the 1-series as we know it.
I am conscious most buyers are not even aware it is a RWD : my brother drives a 116d in Belgium and does not even know he has a RWD!!! I choose my 128i here in the US for the precise reason it is one of the only compact RWD cars on the market!!!! I only hope they keep offering this fabulous straight six. I have the N52 and I find it a wonderful engine, not overly powerful but responsive, revs nicely and it is butter smooth, truly a great engine
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| 12-14-2010, 02:03 PM | #12 |
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Oh and if the top variant costs more than 30k, it's definitely crack pipe. The base 1 (2?) series should be a bit under 30k. And the 3 starting in the mid 30's.
Just my $0.02
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| 12-14-2010, 02:13 PM | #13 |
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I understand its business, but I will not ever buy a FWD car, I cant stand driving them.
I deal with AWD as long as the bias is rear.
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| 12-14-2010, 02:42 PM | #14 |
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This website aside, and others like it, most people don't buy BMWs because they're RWD. It makes complete sense that BMW would want to offer a FWD line in the U.S., a segment that is large and varied in the U.S. The only thing is, for a premium price, people will be looking for larger and less "econobox" cars. U.S. buyers equate high prices with big cars that perform well. Sure, the perception in the U.S. is slowly changing, but a premium-priced compact isn't exactly a big seller here. BMW need only look at the VWs sold in the U.S. for this lesson. VW is having to decontent them like crazy to make them more affordable so that masses of people will buy them. Now, BMW's name has more cache than VW's so that alone may be enough to get people to bite, but I think it's an uphill battle.
MINI's are popular in the U.S., but they are still extremely small in their overall U.S. marketshare. If I was in the market for a FWD small car, I'd absolutely want either a BMW, MINI, or a VW (NOT the new Jetta), but I don't think I'm the typical buyer because I want premium features and performance and am less worried about the cost. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, what is the point of BMW offering a small FWD car in the U.S.? I would imagine that sales figures will be very small so I can't imagine that this type of car would be a huge sales success in terms of profits. |
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| 12-14-2010, 03:46 PM | #15 |
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| 12-14-2010, 03:54 PM | #16 |
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Perhaps, but this is where the M2 will (hopefully) step in and take the baton from the 1M.
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| 12-14-2010, 04:08 PM | #18 |
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It seems like every time I switch brands, that brand turns to shit immediately after.
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| 12-14-2010, 04:16 PM | #20 | |
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Oh god no. ![]()
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| 12-14-2010, 04:17 PM | #21 |
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I do like the looks of it though. At least give us an AWD version that works well.
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| 12-14-2010, 08:40 PM | #22 |
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Been There, Done That.
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Top down drifting in the snow....Nice.
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