BMW 1-Series Forum (F20) 135i - 1Addicts.com > Second Generation 1 Series Forum > 2012 BMW 1-Series Sporthatch (F20) Discussion > Why won't BMW give a better choice with M colours
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-14-2013, 04:48 PM   #1
cc3
Major
621
Rep
1,333
Posts

Drives: 1M, GT4, M2 M140i G40
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: .UK

iTrader: (0)

Why won't BMW give a better choice with M colours

Here in the UK we have M Sport models not sure if every market gets them ? My point is that BMW should make available a few more colours. On the 1 series MSport we have basic white at no cost. Then black sapphire, glacier silver,mineral grey, Valencia orange and Estoril blue at £515. Hardly a great variety given some nice M colours on other models. Is is cost that stops BMW offering some more variety??
Appreciate 0
      02-14-2013, 06:56 PM   #2
tawia
Second Lieutenant
tawia's Avatar
United Kingdom
25
Rep
237
Posts

Drives: F21 125d
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Northern Ireland

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I know. I would have went for Mineral White if It was available :
Appreciate 0
      02-14-2013, 08:27 PM   #3
Tigershark
Enlisted Member
0
Rep
39
Posts

Drives: 116i M Sport
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Scotland

iTrader: (0)

Totally agree. I would have loved a red choice. The Melbourne Red on the F30 is smart.
__________________
F20 116i /// M Sport Estoril Blue

Last edited by Tigershark; 02-14-2013 at 08:42 PM..
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 12:59 AM   #4
Dawko
Captain
Belgium
191
Rep
881
Posts

Drives: :
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: BE

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
  [0.00]
Since it's their 'base' model I don't think they'll offer the same amount of colors as say the F30. Same goes for the individual program available as option with the F30.

You could always order Individual but it has a nice price tag I'd like to see an Oxford Green M135i!
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 03:51 AM   #5
Racing Teatray
Lieutenant
Racing Teatray's Avatar
United Kingdom
218
Rep
492
Posts

Drives: BMW 440i GC
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Central London

iTrader: (0)

I'd go for dark green too. But Individual is not an option on the F20. At least not for mere customers.
__________________
____________________

Current: Macan GTS
Previous: 440i GC, M135i, E60 M5, Z1, 330d, 135i, Alfa 156 GTA, Mercedes 500E, Audi S3, Audi A3 quattro, VW Golf GTI 16v
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 03:55 AM   #6
elstoof
First Lieutenant
United Kingdom
85
Rep
339
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: London, england

iTrader: (0)

Probably because it seems the large majority of M Sport customers will opt for the exclusive blue and orange, and getting a wider range of M Sport body kit sprayed in alternative colours will put the price tag up.
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 04:06 AM   #7
ovekvam
Brigadier General
Norway
266
Rep
3,290
Posts

Drives: 2021 Galvanic Gold i3S
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Bryne, Norway

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by elstoof View Post
Probably because it seems the large majority of M Sport customers will opt for the exclusive blue and orange, and getting a wider range of M Sport body kit sprayed in alternative colours will put the price tag up.
Valencia Orange is not exclusive. You can have it on non-M-Sport cars as well. It used to be 1M-exclusive, but not now.
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 04:24 AM   #8
mowflow
Colonel
mowflow's Avatar
Scotland
62
Rep
2,472
Posts

Drives: Golf 7R
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Glasgow

iTrader: (2)

I think the only colours that are exclusive to MSport models are ones that have a race track name in them i.e. estoril blue on the F series, Le Mans Blue on the E81 etc.

I found the colour choice very disappointing, even more so when I configured a 330d and saw the colour options at no cost. How can Estoril cost £500 on a F20 and nothing on an F30? The same process is involved and I dare say the number of units sold won't be that much different.
__________________
Daily Golf R
Project Peugeot 205 1.6 GTi
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 07:03 AM   #9
Fanis
Lieutenant
Fanis's Avatar
Greece
53
Rep
485
Posts

Drives: 116i (F20) Auto
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Athens, Greece

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
@mowflow: It depends on the market. In some markets the cost of the colour is included in the M-Pack and in other countries it is a cost option. In any case, you pay for it, either in the price of the pack or individually. There is no such thing as ''no cost'' option with BMW!
__________________
2011- : BMW 116i (F20)
2009-11: BMW Z4 2.5si (E85)
2007-09: Mini Cooper S (R56)
2005-07: BMW 325ti (E46)
2004-05: BMW 318i (E36)
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 07:46 AM   #10
mowflow
Colonel
mowflow's Avatar
Scotland
62
Rep
2,472
Posts

Drives: Golf 7R
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Glasgow

iTrader: (2)

That makes it even worse Fanis. The fact that in some countries all colours might be included as M sport package extras without any variation in price where as in another country like the UK I could get a white one cheaper. Not really a fair market.

A white car still has to be painted using the same process as a black or blue car so why is it cheaper?

I know I'm moaning about this and I have a white car but even if the colours were all free I'd probably still have went that way purely because I wanted a red interior for a change. i didn't want black as it's too hard to keep. My wife doesn't like silver and my last car was grey. Blue or orange with red leather are a no for me.
__________________
Daily Golf R
Project Peugeot 205 1.6 GTi
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 11:18 AM   #11
ovekvam
Brigadier General
Norway
266
Rep
3,290
Posts

Drives: 2021 Galvanic Gold i3S
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Bryne, Norway

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mowflow View Post
A white car still has to be painted using the same process as a black or blue car so why is it cheaper?
Option prices has little or nothing to do with production costs. It is all about what the market is willing to pay for the added value.
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 11:22 AM   #12
will-w
'Captain Slow'
United Kingdom
6
Rep
164
Posts

Drives: F20 118d M Sport
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Kent, UK

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 F20 M Sport  [10.00]
Estoril Blue and Valencia Orange aren't Metallic colours on the F20, they are actually Pearlescent.. I'd expect this to be part of the price increase.

I thought the choice of colours for the M Sport wasn't too bad, my last car (an Abarth) was available in Red, Black or White - none of which were even Metallic
Appreciate 0
      02-15-2013, 03:12 PM   #13
24601
Major
24601's Avatar
United_States
95
Rep
1,318
Posts

Drives: Toy
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Oahu, Hawaii

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
I agree, BMW should offer more colors as options.
__________________
Sold - 2014 F01 750Li xDrive CBM M-Sport
Sold - 2013 E92 M3 SS w/ ZCP l ZPP l 2MK l 6NR l 752
Sold - 2009 E92 335i LMB M-Sport
Sold - 2003 E46 M3 LSB SMG
Appreciate 0
      02-18-2013, 01:16 AM   #14
Fanis
Lieutenant
Fanis's Avatar
Greece
53
Rep
485
Posts

Drives: 116i (F20) Auto
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Athens, Greece

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by mowflow View Post
A white car still has to be painted using the same process as a black or blue car so why is it cheaper?
It has to do with metallic and palin colours. for whatever reason, metallic paint costs more so the price difference is then transfered to the customer. I read an interesting article a few years ago (do not remember the magazine, was a German one) about the actual cost of options to the car manufacturer. Metallic paint was the highest rip off, as it did cost a very small amount of extra money for the manufacturer but the customer had to pay a lot. If I remember correctly was somehting like 50 Euro extra cost and they charge something between 500 to 1.500 Euro!! Safety extras on the other hand do cost a lot and the profit margin is much lower for the car manufacturer.
__________________
2011- : BMW 116i (F20)
2009-11: BMW Z4 2.5si (E85)
2007-09: Mini Cooper S (R56)
2005-07: BMW 325ti (E46)
2004-05: BMW 318i (E36)
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:58 PM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST