[///AFRO]

Originally Posted by Alchem

And when your 25 you get M5? @ 29 you get a 911 Turbo? @ 33 you get a DBS? @ 37 you get a F430? and @ 41 you get an LP640?

According to your car history, you rape a car and daddy buys you a new one?

The first part, hopfully I doubt it thought. Second part im not understanding. I raced the following cars in my sig? What's your point?

[Alchem]

Originally Posted by ///AFRO

The first part, hopfully I doubt it thought. Second part im not understanding. I raced the following cars in my sig? What's your point?

There are people that actually work for their money

Thats my point.

[///AFRO]

Originally Posted by Alchem

There are people that actually work for their money

Thats my point.

Oh, I get it. What's your point? I have a job man.

[phoenixbmwlife]

Parents getting you an M3 for your 21 birthday. Lucky bastard.

Alright here is what you need to do. Get the civic and practice with that. You will only need 2 - 3 weeks tops to get comfortable if you drive it everyday. Take it on the high way a couple times in rush hour to practice as well. The amount of times you have to shift and balance the clutch will go a long way.

[Buffalo_Bush]

Originally Posted by Alchem

There are people that actually work for their money

Thats my point.

omg almost every thread where a kid who didnt pay for car says so they get a bunch of people who did work for it making fun or talking crap on them. get over it. some people had to work for it and i am sure you appreciate your car much more for it. it was given to him, end of story. who the hell would turn down a car like that from daddy as all you like to say?

[PAKMAN]

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[ChineseGuy]

who says Manual is for M3?

say that again after you try the SMG

hell, you don't even know how to drive stick and you're already saying this...

[kaji335i]

http://www.standardshift.com/videos.html

[OhhaiAlex]

I'm a chick and I learn manual from an S2k. The clutch for the bmw is very stiff, so I recommended learning from hondas first.

[BMW2006]

Modern clutches are pretty easy to learn on. I'm not sure I would buy a 2nd car to do it. I would just take the car out to a parking lot (have someone who knows how to do it drive you out there, and watch what they are doing) and just do some upshift / downshift practice for an hour or two up to 50ish mph and back (if you can find a place to get away with it), and you'll have it down.

You're going to be in your break-in period anyway, if you keep all your traction controls ON, and RPMs under 5k, by the time your baby is ready for a real workout, you will be too.

I'm not sure if the ///M will have the auto/brake on a hill feature, but that has erased one of the hardest things about driving manuals. You get 3 seconds to apply gas and let the clutch out before the car will start to roll back.

That leaves down shifting and just learning the catch point of your clutch for the basics. The best thing about MT is the car tells you what to do, if you're not just chasing the badge, this will be a good way to start the idea of 'listening to and feeling connected to your car' that all the enthusiasts talk about. When you make a wrong choice, it will tell you. You may have to swallow your ego a few times with a grind on the gears or a stall out in front of other drivers, but in a new 400 + hp ///M class, that may not be such a bad thing 8)

-BMW2006

[Simmad555]

Look in the "Yellow Pages" under driving schools. There are usually a few companies that will teach manual shifting. I have seen many driving school cars that say manual transmission on the back to warn the people behind of a potential roll back. A couple of lessons would not cost much!

[561design]

Originally Posted by ///AFRO

lol, you just gave me an idea. I have a friend with an 06 STI. I posted a video of us racing. I can ask him.



-his STI is in my sig. The cars are the wons I beat lol

Let's just clarify something here. You mean your friend teaching you in the beater civic right? The STI and EVO are not cars you want to learn stick on. They're performance clutches and you can do more damage to them than a normal car. I knew a guy who burned out his clutch sitting in traffic on the way from the dealership. He had about 20 miles on it.

The older manual cars are really better to learn on because you get more "feel" shifting through the gears. The newer cars are often squishy and you don't get a clear response that you're in the gate. I would suggest getting an older beater, learn off of it, then drive it in a lake.

[Hunter399]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

i bought my 335 and got handed the keys, and was like, fuck...... but i got it down after a clutch

or 3

[Crimson92]

Originally Posted by WhiteAngel

I'm a chick and I learn manual from an S2k. The clutch for the bmw is very stiff, so I recommended learning from hondas first.

Really??? you think so??

Coming from a Z that had a super soft clutch I found our 3's clutch to be waaay to soft for my liking.

and kid I know it will hard for you to adjust(being spoiled and all) to a peasant car but learn on the civic before you destroy a nice car.

[SpecC]

I think everyone's already got you covered on this front. Gotta get the Honda Civic! Or you could've gotten the 335i under MT since the clutch is under warranty. I found the clutch on the 335i pretty soft too, but I'm used to driving my cousin's STi around, and you need a hammer to get that clutch down!

[561design]

Originally Posted by WhiteAngel

I'm a chick and I learn manual from an S2k. The clutch for the bmw is very stiff, so I recommended learning from hondas first.

Really? When I test drove the s2k the tranny felt like crap. It was a high reving engine and it didn't feel very forgiving. Maybe it's a matter or newer transmissions vs older ones.

[wj4]

Originally Posted by Crimson92

Really??? you think so??

Coming from a Z that had a super soft clutch I found our 3's clutch to be waaay to soft for my liking.

and kid I know it will hard for you to adjust(being spoiled and all) to a peasant car but learn on the civic before you destroy a nice car.

+1. I stalled on the drive off the parking lot upon picking up my 335i because the clutch is stupid soft. But again I came from an Evo. I drove several Z's too and the clutch was almost as stiff as it was in my Evo, actually liked those clutches better since you gotta give it a solid stomp, lol.

[wj4]

Originally Posted by 561design

Really? When I test drove the s2k the tranny felt like crap. It was a high reving engine and it didn't feel very forgiving. Maybe it's a matter or newer transmissions vs older ones.

You're not confusing the clutch with transmission, right? IMO, the tranny on the s2k is probably the best that I've driven in any price range of manual cars. It's so smooth.

[561design]

Yes you're right. I'm refering to the clutch.

[Maestro]

On most modern cars learning to drive a stick is easy, hell the brakes hold for 2 seconds after you let go of the brake pedal so it give you time to engage the clutch before the car rolls back on a hill.

The hardest part of driving a manual is 1st and reverse, once you master that on hills your set. You just have to worry about over reving the rest of the time.

I learned driving my dads truck up and down our gravel driveway which was on a hill and the clutch was manual and gave your left leg a work out. In those days you have to keep your toes on the brake pedal and press the gas with your heel and let the clutch out and when it started to grab you let the brake go and feather the gas so not to spin the wheels.

I would say the only thing wrong with most cars these days is you do not get the feedback though the clutch pedal when when the clutch is engaging, so some people who are not use to a manual tend to rid the clutch too much, but you will notices it when you get the smell of something has died under your hood coming through the car.

[Dr_Dirt]

You should get an old 1978 F-150 pickup truck and learn from that, this way you'll really appreciate everything else on the road

[smiley]

i learned on my new car, I told the salesperson to teach me after i signed the papers,and thats it, i drove it home by myself.