New Spy Shots of the 2017 1 Series Sedan in China

snipe · 08-03-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Well a Mini is simply a small BMW with a Mini badge, so go figure.

Except it has WrongWheelDrive.

atopa2002 · 08-03-2015, 08:13 PM

At least no huge front overhang.
So far good.

Diver · 08-03-2015, 08:55 PM

When BMW said they had no need for a sedan smaller than a 3 series, they must have meant a 3 series from 10 years ago...

aajami · 08-03-2015, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

When BMW said they had no need for a sedan smaller than a 3 series, they must have meant a 3 series from 10 years ago...

No need for a RWD sedan smaller than a 3-series, apparently.

Jmpascual · 08-03-2015, 09:39 PM

Is it confirmed to have FWD? That gear selector is used only for BMW's rear drive/rear biased models. Notice the 2 Active tourer and the new X1 don't have this shifter.

AKRAPOVICOWNS · 08-03-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmpascual

Is it confirmed to have FWD? That gear selector is used only for BMW's rear drive/rear biased models. Notice the 2 Active tourer and the new X1 don't have this shifter.

Yes, but to me it only indicates a ZF 8spd transmission, not the wheels driven.

Center stack looks similar to X5/6 and G11 ones..which looks pretty nice.

Cant tell much on the outside but im not holding my breath, looking at recent BMWs designs.

Dont get all this FWD hate. Certainly i prefer RWD but at this price point i guess it doesnt make commercial sense, not to mention the back seat/trunk room that the RWD platform would take away in a car this size.

Pray that they actually make a 2er GC which scott said that its platform can be used for both FWD and RWD.

ORIGIN M. · 08-03-2015, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dharo1

But why???FWD

Because xDrive

ORIGIN M. · 08-03-2015, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

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Originally Posted by Diver

When BMW said they had no need for a sedan smaller than a 3 series, they must have meant a 3 series from 10 years ago...

No need for a RWD sedan smaller than a 3-series, apparently.

Yes indeed... Time will yield a 2er Gran Coupe.

They can do only N26 xDrive and it will never really touch the 3er sales. The 2 is the new 3 anyways. They just keep upsizing each model so they have to complete the lower line up to stay competitive in every segment.

r3dbimmer89 · 08-03-2015, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AKRAPOVICOWNS

Yes, but to me it only indicates a ZF 8spd transmission, not the wheels driven.

Center stack looks similar to X5/6 and G11 ones..which looks pretty nice.

Cant tell much on the outside but im not holding my breath, looking at recent BMWs designs.

Dont get all this FWD hate. Certainly i prefer RWD but at this price point i guess it doesnt make commercial sense, not to mention the back seat/trunk room that the RWD platform would take away in a car this size.

Pray that they actually make a 2er GC which scott said that its platform can be used for both FWD and RWD.

ZF 8spd is a longitudinal automatic so this wouldn't fit a FWD setup... but a FWD 1 series sedan makes sense to combat the CLA and A3 sedan...both are FWD...

So the F87 M2 will be the one and only since BMW M will not make a FWD M car.

Nahlem · 08-03-2015, 11:38 PM

Well at least the car has the large instrument cluster. Stupid BMW for not putting it on my car

So i guess they wont be doing that mistake again.

rallybull · 08-03-2015, 11:41 PM

Waiting for the M2-grandcoupe

asikne · 08-03-2015, 11:49 PM

There is wrong photo! The interior shot from X5 F15!

ORIGIN M. · 08-04-2015, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rallybull

Waiting for the M2-grandcoupe

Absolutely

Jmpascual · 08-04-2015, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by asikne

There is wrong photo! The interior shot from X5 F15!

Now that you say it...

Jmpascual · 08-04-2015, 01:11 AM

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dishy · 08-04-2015, 01:50 AM

HAHAHA good one.
You guys do know that this has nothing to do with BMW, right? China frequently copy cars for their internal market only.

pinco000 · 08-04-2015, 02:29 AM

thats an ugly car BMW!! What for? With quantity, quality goes down!

Leo_Straight6 · 08-04-2015, 03:48 AM

Hmmmm I wish this car would be RWD - I'd be interested.

Always wanted a cheap, new BMW sedan but if its not RWD it's not really a BMW to me. Might grab a 2nd hand F20 hatchback or Audi A3 Sedan.

Its funny that I actually really like the Audi A3 sedan, looks really nice and the fact that its FWD doesn't bother me too much. But somehow with a BMW I find it rather lame - because it is not what I expect from them.

E90M3JETS · 08-04-2015, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalDave

A3 Fighter. I'll pass. The A3 is a nice car...in S3 trim

. The new 1er...in AWD trim..will be what..an M1?

.

I like the S3 too. Beautiful car, ver very fast and drives great. I wish BMW would put 2 more doors in their M235i to compete with the Audi. This 1 series will not drive like the 2 series for sure so BMW may finally lose to Audi on the only thing it truly differentiates itself nowadays IMO: driving dynamics.

wdeerfield · 08-04-2015, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lowbudgethero

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Originally Posted by Brandan303_BMWGenius

The 3 series in my opinion is a perfect size sedan. I feel like the BMW line is great as it is. A smaller sedan isn't really needed but the price point may be what customers want to get into a BMW.

- Brandan
CO's BMW Center of Loveland, CO

the 3 series is the perfect replacement for the old 5 series

This new 1er sedan with xdrive will be a perfect replacement for the $30k e46 i use to have. give me turbo 4 msport, xdrive, sunroof, with comfort access and heated seats. all for $35k and you'll sell a million the first year.

Glassjaw047 · 08-04-2015, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wdeerfield

This new 1er sedan with xdrive will be a perfect replacement for the $30k e46 i use to have. give me turbo 4 msport, xdrive, sunroof, with comfort access and heated seats. all for $35k and you'll sell a million the first year.

So true.....you'll have so many people wanting to get into a BMW just because of that price point with all those goodies involved.

DaZuc · 08-04-2015, 07:18 AM

Kinda looks like the dct transmission level. Except with a different color accent.

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